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DATE | 2008-06-30 |
FROM | From: "Ronny Abraham"
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C Programing Workshop
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From lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Jun 30 19:13:32 2008 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m5UNDTZ6031777 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:13:31 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id m5UNDTlb031776 for hangout-outgoings; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:13:29 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to lest-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.28]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id m5UNDQKT031773 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:13:28 -0400 Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 5so925061ywb.11 for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=TNphZWgnH1avjxVyAzYMCLJuKrjVyQsU1PBK1Q8dkiE=; b=M36unXinfwswlnfPgVxDUbByUTWBpxP9nDARCCqLSlHWt2C3Sw+Iq/Kw2chrSwFBu/ vMRCPdAy4omV2YTxei7Jpwip9281t8zl+49k6atU7J4Boqz9gJiOQ8HukCKpJEb0CA/a FwxkfSM4hZBIaqGS39zrGrsNtUqkMYa84Pc6U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=u0frE5+A0QbYmlWdoV0VBMqnJwg8WTZBwU6uo5OA2eJabg3W4BKDnt4PcIintqtg+S ZFqRoKXLR9Wn2zCoKkWDebC6GMjE/AQWX23TiLuARoYYfLGDZKlNdqKm1QfQWSktPeBh jlv+qJUfaEnZYRFT341D3Q5//fV752Lqij7Wo= Received: by 10.150.217.18 with SMTP id p18mr9338301ybg.67.1214867585941; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.151.27.10 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <7405d1440806301613rc9e4cd1l16f1ab540063211e-at-mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:13:05 -0400 From: "Ronny Abraham" To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C Programing Workshop In-Reply-To: <20080630005604.GA14769-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20080629020405.GB22523-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <7405d1440806291147o562c4f48o4f6b51018a0ccc9a-at-mail.gmail.com> <20080629194439.GA28808-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <7405d1440806291736h4a8bf3e2ia3c1de78d205d9f5-at-mail.gmail.com> <20080630005604.GA14769-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> Sender: lest-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
> The King book is actually very superior to K&R. It teaches C concepts > exceptionally well. It's just damn expensive. I can always tell someone > who learned C from K&R. They tend to do some weird things.
Hmm. What's the full name of the author? I'll take a look.
>> The Strousberg text is a massive pain in the ass to deal with. I >> know, they tried using it at NYU and everyone, I mean EVERY ONE of the >> students bought another text to deal with the course (including me). >> No one understood what the hell the Professor teaching the course was >> saying, and he was actually pretty damn good (he's the current head of >> the compsci grad division). > > Was that Meltzer? What was his name?
Nah. it was Sasha. I think that's his name. Been a while. Great professor. Trouble was Strousberg is so damn ... intelligent.
> Debugging simplifiation and reuse is the main goal OO or any other programming format. > I thnk your agreeing with me, not disagreeing. But if you jump straight to OO programming > without the grounding to procedureal programing, you won't have a damn clue what your code > does, let alone how it affects security or what it does in gdb. > > Remember -> In, Out, Side Affect, Repeat.....
Well, that was pretty much how we were taught ... Assembly, then C, then pick stuff up.
-ron
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