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DATE 2016-09-10
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: LIU Lock Out
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-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: LIU Lock Out
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 20:36:12 -0400
From: Ruben Safir
To: learn-at-nylxs.com

Eric Krasnoff
Chair of Long Island University
700 Northern Blvd
Brookville, NY 11548


Dear Mr Krasnoff

I=E2=80=99m a student at LIU/Brooklyn in the Masters Degree program for Com=
puter
Sciences. I=E2=80=99ve attended LIU since 1986 when I entered and graduate=
d the
Pharmacy Program. I also attended the PhD Program in Pharmaceutics and
now I am 2 years into my Masters in Comp Sci. In my time within the
Comp Sci program, I=E2=80=99ve often wondered whether the program should be
accredited. The moral with the faculty and student body has been often
very negative. When I asked about course work which is normally part of
Computer Science programs, areas such as discrete mathematics, compiler
theory, and parallel programming, I=E2=80=99ve been told that our school
doesn=E2=80=99t have a student body that can do these classes. Other times=
I=E2=80=99ve
been told that I shouldn=E2=80=99t expect such a quality education from LIU=
, and
switch to an engineering institution like PolyTech, or that our students
don=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cprogram=E2=80=9D.

What has kept me going is that the response to these opinions has been
that the Chair of the department, in collaboration with faculty have
pushed these intensive subjects back into the program. They offered
compiler theory last semester and this semester offered Parallel
programming in C. The Networking class added an extensive section on
cryptography. There has been a greater push for quality and it has been
appreciated.

That is until now.

You fired your faculty leaving me signed up with a parallel programming
class without a qualified faculty. Furthermore, the same unqualified
professor has said that he will not teach the Special Topics in
Programming on a graduate school level. I am in disbelief that after
all this work, we are now working with an unqualified professor who is
unfamiliar with the advanced topics that we are pursuing in Graduate
School, and refuses to even make an effort to ramp up to the topics.
Instead he is planning on teaching on a Community College level these
advanced classes.

I=E2=80=99m tired of fighting both the negativism and the politics that boil
over at this university. I=E2=80=99m calling on you to immediately interve=
ne in
the current labor dispute and save the schools accreditation and
reputation. It is time to replace all the recrimination and Nay Sayers
with a =E2=80=9CCan Do=E2=80=9D attitude, and that starts with ending the l=
ock out right
away.

There is nothing to be gained with this lock out at this point, even if
there ever was. The union is in no position to go on strike after
protesting how they love their jobs and students, as they have been with
such verbiage of pretentious doting for the last 2 weeks. This labor
dispute has to stop upsetting and leaking into the classroom NOW.

It is a farce for the administration to say that the student experience
is not being interrupted. That deceit must also end NOW. It is
malicious, calculating and cruel. The administration needs to apologize
to the student body for the lock out. And the faculty must also
likewise make such apologies and rededicate themselves to the welfare of
students which they ostentatiously venerate, instead of disrupting
semesters for their pockets and egos. And then you need to reschedule
the lost weeks of real education. You will need to figure out how to
expense that, without putting it on the backs of students. The students
are the innocent bystanders here. They are tied to the school because
of a combination of student aid regulations, visa issue and other
arraignments. Whoever wins this labor dispute, in the end students lose.

FIX THIS MESS.


Ruben Safir
1580 East 19th Street
Apt 1E
Brooklyn, NY 11230

CC: Ex Officer Kimberly Cline, Governor Cuomo, Paul Thompson NYS
Department of Education, Liz Robbins NY Times, Dean Edward Rogoff
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