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DATE	2021-12-25
FROM	Ruben Safir
SUBJECT	Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The privacy privileged and the Press
Please see these articles and then read my commentary: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/24/business/media/new-york-times-project-veritas.html https://www.projectveritas.com/news/hot-off-the-press-of-the-supreme-court-of-the-state-of-new-york-project/ I don't often read the NY Times any longer because I have found in the last 5 years that the reporting has become subpar, and more importantly it has become bigoted and infused with far leftist political discourse. The paper has long moved from its position as an unbiased platform for reporting facts to an investigative and political platform for the extreme left. It is sad, and I feel deep remorse at this loss. It is very unfortunate that future generations will never experience the grandeur of the old New York Times. Although the modern Times had always had a left leaning slant, it's commitment to fair and even handed reporting was the lateen of the editorial board for the paper, and its main mast was the broad publication of data, biographies, histories, and first hand reporting of the facts. Upon this, the Times was able to occasionally pursue investigative reporting on a bedrock of solid facts and avoid muckraking, and most importantly, to disengage as a direct participant of the political struggles of the day. They laid out events using the third person voice and committed themselves to reporting conflicts from multiple perspectives leaving the judgment of these events to the reader. In a word, the NY Times had respect for its readership, and this is no longer the case. It is hard to find such a news source in today's 24/7 news cycle of hysteria. The Times has found itself embroiled in controversy this week as a political participant of the previous presidential election in a way which might be humorous if it was not for the serious long term consequences. Ideally, the press should never be a direct participant of an election, but it seems that axiom has long since fallen. They had decided to take it upon themselves to privately investigate a small time political organization which doubtfully anyone would really care about called "Project Vertas". On the internet, nobody knows your a dog. Project Vertas, in short, is a modern version of El ingenioso hidalgo don Quixote de la Mancha played out by James O’Keefe who has taken as his chivalric objective the taking down of the entire world press. And in this crusade, he has garnered a number of like minded volunteer "journalist" to help expose the truth, wherever that might eventually lead. Over all, it is a rather interesting run of the mill expression of modern Democracy in action, where every constituency can find its voice and partake of political activity. But I'm a support of Free Software and a Jew at that, so I am all for tilting at windmills. And such projects can be not only satisfying to the participants, but at times make practical contributions to a society at large. We gain little in suppressing such minority voices and lose a great deal in not just diversity of voices, but in terms of individual protection. The NY Times, however, has found Project Vertas to be a political threat to our freedom and has launched a vicious campaign to suppress their activities and voice. And what is better is that Project Vertas has decided to investigate the NY Times. And the entire thing has now landed in court with an important and unexpected result. Project Vertas has hired lawyers tasked with protecting and advising the organization on legal matters. Generally, this kind of activity is protected under client-lawyer confidentiality under the assumption that lawyers can't possibly do their jobs of defending clients if the communications between the client and the lawyer is not protected. Unlike the job of the Free Press, the job of a lawyer is advocacy of the client. This client-lawyer privileged has taken a beating since the Trump election starting with the FBI investigations of Trumps lawyers, and even from before this. The court, however, for some reason, has decided, enough is enough, and on Friday the State Supreme Court in Westchester County issued this ruling when the Times acquired confidential client attorney communications and threatened to public it. QUOTE: “Undoubtedly, every media outlet believes that anything that it publishes is a matter of public concern,” the judge wrote. He added: “Our smartphones beep and buzz all day long with news flashes that supposedly reflect our browsing and clicking interests, and we can tune in or read the news outlet that gives us the stories and topics that we want to see. But some things are not fodder for public consideration and consumption.” “The Times is perfectly free to investigate, uncover, research, interview, photograph, record, report, publish, opine, expose or ignore whatever aspects of Project Veritas its editors in their sole discretion deem newsworthy, without utilizing Project Veritas’s attorney-client privileged memoranda,” the judge wrote. ENDQUOTE I would venture to say that if we do not have a protected private space, and not just in this matter, we are completely disenfranchised and slaves to the state, and to other instruments of society. I would also like to remind the NY Times, that it is absolutely equally important for a group like Project Veritas to be free to participate in our Democracy and have a voice as it is for the NY Times. It has been the case previously that the NY Times legal memos and communications had become a bone of contention with the Government and others and that you also deserve the same protections that Project Veritas does. The Times would answer that they are not the government. I would firmly respond that in this case, that is irrelevant. Reuvain Safir -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout