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"An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is
no equivalent in
*any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd,
and controlling
what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request
processing."

Like this?
https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_lua.html

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:45 AM Andr=C3=A9 Warnier (tomcat/perl) .com>
wrote:

> On 22.12.2021 13:19, Wes Peng wrote:
> > Raku has its own WSGI httpserver?
> >
>
> Yes, as there are several similar things for Apache/perl (such as
> Plack/PSGI).
>
> But these frameworks only do *partially* what mod_perl allows one to do.
>
> An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is
> no equivalent in
> *any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd=
,
> and controlling
> what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request
> processing.
>
> This page : https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/handlers/http.html
> contains a diagram of all the "phases" which a HTTP request goes through
> in Apache httpd.
> WSGI/PSGI Frameworks give you access to what happens in the bottom
> "response" block.
> mod_perl gives you access to what happens in *all* the blocks.
>
> For many developers, being able to act at the Response stage is enough,
> and in such a
> case, they will be happy with what a WSGI/PSGI/proxy solution provides.
>
> However, if you want to do deeper things within Apache httpd (such as for
> instance create
> your own authentication/authorization mechanism, or creating your own
> input/output
> filters), and you want to do that using perl as a language, then mod_perl
> is your thing.
>
> >
> >
> >> Has anyone considered having a mod_raku version of mod_perl?
> >>
> >> Merry Christmas to all.
> >>
> >> -Tom
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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*any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, =
and controlling

what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request process=
ing."

Like this?

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On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:45 AM Andr=
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> wrote:
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ex">On 22.12.2021 13:19, Wes Peng wrote:

> Raku has its own WSGI httpserver?

>



Yes, as there are several similar things for Apache/perl (such as Plack/PSG=
I).



But these frameworks only do *partially* what mod_perl allows one to do.>


An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is n=
o equivalent in

*any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, =
and controlling

what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request process=
ing.



This page : html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0=
/user/handlers/http.html


contains a diagram of all the "phases" which a HTTP request goes =
through in Apache httpd.

WSGI/PSGI Frameworks give you access to what happens in the bottom "re=
sponse" block.

mod_perl gives you access to what happens in *all* the blocks.



For many developers, being able to act at the Response stage is enough, and=
in such a

case, they will be happy with what a WSGI/PSGI/proxy solution provides.



However, if you want to do deeper things within Apache httpd (such as for i=
nstance create

your own authentication/authorization mechanism, or creating your own input=
/output

filters), and you want to do that using perl as a language, then mod_perl i=
s your thing.



>

>

>> Has anyone considered having a mod_raku version of mod_perl?

>>

>> Merry Christmas to all.

>>

>> -Tom

>>

>>

>





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"An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is
no equivalent in
*any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd,
and controlling
what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request
processing."

Like this?
https://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/mod/mod_lua.html

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:45 AM Andr=C3=A9 Warnier (tomcat/perl) .com>
wrote:

> On 22.12.2021 13:19, Wes Peng wrote:
> > Raku has its own WSGI httpserver?
> >
>
> Yes, as there are several similar things for Apache/perl (such as
> Plack/PSGI).
>
> But these frameworks only do *partially* what mod_perl allows one to do.
>
> An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is
> no equivalent in
> *any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd=
,
> and controlling
> what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request
> processing.
>
> This page : https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0/user/handlers/http.html
> contains a diagram of all the "phases" which a HTTP request goes through
> in Apache httpd.
> WSGI/PSGI Frameworks give you access to what happens in the bottom
> "response" block.
> mod_perl gives you access to what happens in *all* the blocks.
>
> For many developers, being able to act at the Response stage is enough,
> and in such a
> case, they will be happy with what a WSGI/PSGI/proxy solution provides.
>
> However, if you want to do deeper things within Apache httpd (such as for
> instance create
> your own authentication/authorization mechanism, or creating your own
> input/output
> filters), and you want to do that using perl as a language, then mod_perl
> is your thing.
>
> >
> >
> >> Has anyone considered having a mod_raku version of mod_perl?
> >>
> >> Merry Christmas to all.
> >>
> >> -Tom
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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ch I believe there is no equivalent in

*any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, =
and controlling

what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request process=
ing."

Like this?

=
On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 8:45 AM Andr=
=C3=A9 Warnier (tomcat/perl) <aw-at-ice-sa=
.com
> wrote:
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ex">On 22.12.2021 13:19, Wes Peng wrote:

> Raku has its own WSGI httpserver?

>



Yes, as there are several similar things for Apache/perl (such as Plack/PSG=
I).



But these frameworks only do *partially* what mod_perl allows one to do.>


An essential part of mod_perl (and something for which I believe there is n=
o equivalent in

*any* language), is the ability to insert itself deeply into Apache httpd, =
and controlling

what happens inside httpd at virtually any stage of an HTTP request process=
ing.



This page : html" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://perl.apache.org/docs/2.0=
/user/handlers/http.html


contains a diagram of all the "phases" which a HTTP request goes =
through in Apache httpd.

WSGI/PSGI Frameworks give you access to what happens in the bottom "re=
sponse" block.

mod_perl gives you access to what happens in *all* the blocks.



For many developers, being able to act at the Response stage is enough, and=
in such a

case, they will be happy with what a WSGI/PSGI/proxy solution provides.



However, if you want to do deeper things within Apache httpd (such as for i=
nstance create

your own authentication/authorization mechanism, or creating your own input=
/output

filters), and you want to do that using perl as a language, then mod_perl i=
s your thing.



>

>

>> Has anyone considered having a mod_raku version of mod_perl?

>>

>> Merry Christmas to all.

>>

>> -Tom

>>

>>

>





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  66. 2021-12-28 Richard Stallman <rms-at-gnu.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The privacy privileged and the Press
  67. 2021-12-27 From: "Randolf Richardson" <randolf-at-modperl.pl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2 (with
  68. 2021-12-23 Piper H <potthua-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2
  69. 2021-12-27 From: "Randolf Richardson" <randolf-at-modperl.pl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2
  70. 2021-12-23 Chris Bennett <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2
  71. 2021-12-22 Wes Peng <pentwes-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raku
  72. 2021-12-22 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raku
  73. 2021-12-22 John D Groenveld <groenveld-at-acm.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2
  74. 2021-12-22 John Dunlap <John-at-lariat.co> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raku
  75. 2021-12-22 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raku
  76. 2021-12-22 Tom Browder <tom.browder-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Raku
  77. 2021-12-30 From: "Geoffrey Knauth, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Will you support user freedom by helping to reach
  78. 2021-12-22 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  79. 2021-12-21 raf <postfix-at-raf.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  80. 2021-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  81. 2021-12-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Adding Additional domains and outgoing email
  82. 2021-12-22 From: =?UTF-8?Q?Andr=c3=a9_Warnier_=28tomcat/perl=29?= <aw-at-ice-sa.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2
  83. 2021-12-23 Chris Bennett <cpb_mod_perl-at-bennettconstruction.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2
  84. 2021-12-23 Piper H <potthua-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2
  85. 2021-12-27 From: "Randolf Richardson" <randolf-at-modperl.pl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2
  86. 2021-12-27 From: "Randolf Richardson" <randolf-at-modperl.pl> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-2.0.12 RC2 (with

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