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[[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]

> > Project Veritas destroyed the voter-registration organization ACORN
> > by publishing disinformation videos which falsely suggested that
> > ACORN's staff encouraged voter fraud. The organization is a real
> > threat to democracy.

> No it is not. Not even close.

Well, I believe it is.

Democracy doesn't depend on ACORN or
> Veritas,

I agree that democracy does not require the existence of either of
those two.

but it does depend on free speach and the freedom of political
> participation.

I support both of those. But freedom of speech doesn't include fraud
and libel, and they are the m.o. of Project Falsitas.

What other issues there may have been about ACORN are not pertinent
to condemning the attack on it using lies.

The issue at hand is about a detail of the boundary of lawyer-client
privilege. My opinion is that Project Veritas should have the same
privilege that any other lawyer's client has. I don't know enough to
have a more specific opinion

--
Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
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