Tue Apr 23 12:34:55 2024
EVENTS
 FREE
SOFTWARE
INSTITUTE

POLITICS
JOBS
MEMBERS'
CORNER

MAILING
LIST

NYLXS Mailing Lists and Archives
NYLXS Members have a lot to say and share but we don't keep many secrets. Join the Hangout Mailing List and say your peice.

DATE 2023-11-01

HANGOUT

2024-04-23 | 2024-03-23 | 2024-02-23 | 2024-01-23 | 2023-12-23 | 2023-11-23 | 2023-10-23 | 2023-09-23 | 2023-08-23 | 2023-07-23 | 2023-06-23 | 2023-05-23 | 2023-04-23 | 2023-03-23 | 2023-02-23 | 2023-01-23 | 2022-12-23 | 2022-11-23 | 2022-10-23 | 2022-09-23 | 2022-08-23 | 2022-07-23 | 2022-06-23 | 2022-05-23 | 2022-04-23 | 2022-03-23 | 2022-02-23 | 2022-01-23 | 2021-12-23 | 2021-11-23 | 2021-10-23 | 2021-09-23 | 2021-08-23 | 2021-07-23 | 2021-06-23 | 2021-05-23 | 2021-04-23 | 2021-03-23 | 2021-02-23 | 2021-01-23 | 2020-12-23 | 2020-11-23 | 2020-10-23 | 2020-09-23 | 2020-08-23 | 2020-07-23 | 2020-06-23 | 2020-05-23 | 2020-04-23 | 2020-03-23 | 2020-02-23 | 2020-01-23 | 2019-12-23 | 2019-11-23 | 2019-10-23 | 2019-09-23 | 2019-08-23 | 2019-07-23 | 2019-06-23 | 2019-05-23 | 2019-04-23 | 2019-03-23 | 2019-02-23 | 2019-01-23 | 2018-12-23 | 2018-11-23 | 2018-10-23 | 2018-09-23 | 2018-08-23 | 2018-07-23 | 2018-06-23 | 2018-05-23 | 2018-04-23 | 2018-03-23 | 2018-02-23 | 2018-01-23 | 2017-12-23 | 2017-11-23 | 2017-10-23 | 2017-09-23 | 2017-08-23 | 2017-07-23 | 2017-06-23 | 2017-05-23 | 2017-04-23 | 2017-03-23 | 2017-02-23 | 2017-01-23 | 2016-12-23 | 2016-11-23 | 2016-10-23 | 2016-09-23 | 2016-08-23 | 2016-07-23 | 2016-06-23 | 2016-05-23 | 2016-04-23 | 2016-03-23 | 2016-02-23 | 2016-01-23 | 2015-12-23 | 2015-11-23 | 2015-10-23 | 2015-09-23 | 2015-08-23 | 2015-07-23 | 2015-06-23 | 2015-05-23 | 2015-04-23 | 2015-03-23 | 2015-02-23 | 2015-01-23 | 2014-12-23 | 2014-11-23 | 2014-10-23 | 2014-09-23 | 2014-08-23 | 2014-07-23 | 2014-06-23 | 2014-05-23 | 2014-04-23 | 2014-03-23 | 2014-02-23 | 2014-01-23 | 2013-12-23 | 2013-11-23 | 2013-10-23 | 2013-09-23 | 2013-08-23 | 2013-07-23 | 2013-06-23 | 2013-05-23 | 2013-04-23 | 2013-03-23 | 2013-02-23 | 2013-01-23 | 2012-12-23 | 2012-11-23 | 2012-10-23 | 2012-09-23 | 2012-08-23 | 2012-07-23 | 2012-06-23 | 2012-05-23 | 2012-04-23 | 2012-03-23 | 2012-02-23 | 2012-01-23 | 2011-12-23 | 2011-11-23 | 2011-10-23 | 2011-09-23 | 2011-08-23 | 2011-07-23 | 2011-06-23 | 2011-05-23 | 2011-04-23 | 2011-03-23 | 2011-02-23 | 2011-01-23 | 2010-12-23 | 2010-11-23 | 2010-10-23 | 2010-09-23 | 2010-08-23 | 2010-07-23 | 2010-06-23 | 2010-05-23 | 2010-04-23 | 2010-03-23 | 2010-02-23 | 2010-01-23 | 2009-12-23 | 2009-11-23 | 2009-10-23 | 2009-09-23 | 2009-08-23 | 2009-07-23 | 2009-06-23 | 2009-05-23 | 2009-04-23 | 2009-03-23 | 2009-02-23 | 2009-01-23 | 2008-12-23 | 2008-11-23 | 2008-10-23 | 2008-09-23 | 2008-08-23 | 2008-07-23 | 2008-06-23 | 2008-05-23 | 2008-04-23 | 2008-03-23 | 2008-02-23 | 2008-01-23 | 2007-12-23 | 2007-11-23 | 2007-10-23 | 2007-09-23 | 2007-08-23 | 2007-07-23 | 2007-06-23 | 2007-05-23 | 2007-04-23 | 2007-03-23 | 2007-02-23 | 2007-01-23 | 2006-12-23 | 2006-11-23 | 2006-10-23 | 2006-09-23 | 2006-08-23 | 2006-07-23 | 2006-06-23 | 2006-05-23 | 2006-04-23 | 2006-03-23 | 2006-02-23 | 2006-01-23 | 2005-12-23 | 2005-11-23 | 2005-10-23 | 2005-09-23 | 2005-08-23 | 2005-07-23 | 2005-06-23 | 2005-05-23 | 2005-04-23 | 2005-03-23 | 2005-02-23 | 2005-01-23 | 2004-12-23 | 2004-11-23 | 2004-10-23 | 2004-09-23 | 2004-08-23 | 2004-07-23 | 2004-06-23 | 2004-05-23 | 2004-04-23 | 2004-03-23 | 2004-02-23 | 2004-01-23 | 2003-12-23 | 2003-11-23 | 2003-10-23 | 2003-09-23 | 2003-08-23 | 2003-07-23 | 2003-06-23 | 2003-05-23 | 2003-04-23 | 2003-03-23 | 2003-02-23 | 2003-01-23 | 2002-12-23 | 2002-11-23 | 2002-10-23 | 2002-09-23 | 2002-08-23 | 2002-07-23 | 2002-06-23 | 2002-05-23 | 2002-04-23 | 2002-03-23 | 2002-02-23 | 2002-01-23 | 2001-12-23 | 2001-11-23 | 2001-10-23 | 2001-09-23 | 2001-08-23 | 2001-07-23 | 2001-06-23 | 2001-05-23 | 2001-04-23 | 2001-03-23 | 2001-02-23 | 2001-01-23 | 2000-12-23 | 2000-11-23 | 2000-10-23 | 2000-09-23 | 2000-08-23 | 2000-07-23 | 2000-06-23 | 2000-05-23 | 2000-04-23 | 2000-03-23 | 2000-02-23 | 2000-01-23 | 1999-12-23

Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2023-11-08
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Worth a read...
nypost.com
Secret to Israel's success is a sense of service — and belonging
Dan Senor, Saul Singer
9–12 minutes

In the October 7 war, Israel has a secret weapon: the spectacular
solidarity of its people.

The roots of this societal resilience did not grow overnight.

They are the product of a culture of service unique in the West, a
culture that carefully nurtures a sense of belonging and purpose.

The mobilization of Israeli society, both military and civilian, is
unprecedented.

Religious and secular, Ashkenazi and Mizrahi, right and left, tech CEOs
and the socioeconomically challenged periphery, and even Arabs and Jews
have come together, not just in sentiment but in action.

Everyone is doing their part, embracing the families of the killed,
wounded, kidnapped and evacuated.
The ‘meritocracy’ mistake

What makes Israeli society so able to mobilize? We wrote our new book,
“The Genius of Israel: The Surprising Resilience of a Divided Nation in
a Turbulent World,” to try to answer this question.

We set out to understand how the wellsprings of Israel’s social strength
are directly relevant to treating the deepening maladies of modern
societies, not least in the United States.

One lens with which to view this is through the very different visions
and values that shape the elites of Israel compared to other liberal
democracies.

In America, the coin of merit and advancement is the university degree,
creating a stark “diploma divide.” The consequences of not having a
university degree are profound.

A high school diploma was once sufficient to earn a respectable living
and to provide one’s children with the opportunity for a better life,
but that is no longer the case.

In 1990, the US median wage for college graduates was over one-third
higher than for those with only a high school diploma.

By 2021, the gap had almost doubled — college graduates had two-thirds
higher median incomes than high school graduates.

Young adults without a college degree are almost four times as likely to
live in poverty as college graduates.

In the United States, if you are a middle-age man without a college
degree, you are three times more likely to die from suicide, alcohol
abuse or a drug overdose.

At the same time, the extraordinary lengths young people go to to apply
to elite colleges create their own dysfunctionality.

Real community service, according to Harvard professor Michael Sandel,
has been supplanted by “internships and good deeds in distant lands
designed to impress college admissions committees — all supervised by
anxious hyper-parents.”

Follow along with The Post’s live blog for the latest on Hamas’ attack
on Israel

Education systems have become “sorting machines.” “Where did you go to
school?” is a question people ask to place each other in their mental
status hierarchy.

It has become the job of education systems — particularly those that
guard the gates of higher education — to determine who has merit and who
doesn’t.
Universal enlistment, shared sacrifice

Israel also has a meritocracy, but with an important difference: Merit
is judged by service.

In most meritocracies, the criterion to reach the pinnacle of merit is
individual academic excellence.

In Israel, the most meritorious are those who seek and are chosen for
the most challenging military service. This changes everything.

It means merit is determined by something that is not about you, but
about how you can contribute to your society and country.

It is a communal value that builds solidarity, rather an individualistic
value that contributes to moving up the ladder.

What it takes to be chosen is also very different than in other societies.

No matter how impressive your individual talents are, you cannot be of
much use to the top military units if you can’t work with others.
Individuals don’t carry out missions; teams do.

In addition, the mission is not for the benefit of individual soldiers
or even just the unit. Soldiers must be willing to sacrifice everything
for something larger than themselves.

What happens when a society selects those willing and able to do the
toughest service rather than those who have the perfect academic record?

A society that selects for service changes everything, from what young
people aspire to as they grow up, to how they structure their lives
throughout adulthood.

The more you look, the greater the differences.
Everyone doing their part

When we spoke to Nadav Zafrir, a successful Israeli entrepreneur and the
commander of an elite tech unit in the IDF, he was in the process of
moving his family back to Israel after spending a few years in the
United States building his business.

A major reason for returning to Israel was so his children could go into
the Israeli army rather than to an American university.

“I looked at my kids and I said, ‘This is what I want for them,’ ”
Zafrir told us. “Not because I’m a Spartan, but because I honestly think
it’s a better education.”

The IDF values many traits and talents, such as high motivation,
problem-solving skills, determination, the ability to self-criticize,
and a capacity to work in teams.

What is clear, as former IDF chief of staff Gen. Aviv Kohavi told us, is
that many of the IDF’s star performers would have been quickly weeded
out by meritocracies that require perfect academic performance.

A meritocracy based on service draws from a much larger talent pool. But
is this just switching one elite for another? What about those who don’t
make it to the top in either system?

The prestige of universities is measured in part by how many applicants
they keep out. The IDF’s job is different. It can’t just think about the
top. It has a strong incentive to maximize the human potential of every
draftee. Often it understands that potential better than the teenagers
understand themselves.

“Everybody is screened with a superior prediction model that’s been
optimized over decades,” Zafrir said.

This process is hardly perfect. There are plenty of stories of people
who could have had a more “meaningful service” than they did. The boring
jobs need filling, too.

But there are also many stories of young people who were given
challenges and responsibilities that they could never have imagined.

In other countries, meritocracies select for individual achievement.
This is having cumulative effects.

Over time, it has become harder to get into top schools, higher
education costs have soared, and a glut of college grads has led to more
competition for jobs that require a degree.
Fighting polarization

At the same time, individualism has been increasing, which has led to
smaller families and greater emphasis on work as a source of meaning.

Having a place where young people can not only meet each other but live
and work closely together means that whatever differences there are —
political, socioeconomic, cultural, ethnic — there is some underlying
commonality that limits how far people can turn on one another.

What kind of common ground do other countries have to hold them
together? It’s not clear.

What does seem clear is that polarization within countries has been
increasing over time.

“Look, there’s a big problem of polarization in the world today,” Kohavi
told us. “In any other country, leaders have to look for some way to
bring people together. Here we have it for free, for two years, three
years, and sometimes 30 years,” alluding to his own military career and
also to the experience of Israelis who have reserve duty through much of
their adult lives.

If solidarity is the antidote to polarization, it must be built around
something.

Being part of humanity is not enough, and even being part of the same
country, culture, or religion seems to provide less protection than it
once did against spinning apart.

Many Israelis across ethnic, political and socioeconomic lines have
something even stronger than a common experience: a sense of belonging.

“What happens in the belly of the ship? In the hull of the tank, or in
the warehouse on a base?” Kohavi mused. He went on to argue that it is
not just about forming lasting friendships.

“The intensity of military service helps create a strong feeling of
belonging,” he said. “Any soldier who has contributed to his or her
country feels that this country belongs to them more than ever. And the
importance of belonging doesn’t stop there. It also has a profound
impact on the individual level.”

The power of belonging is not just about keeping a society together. It
is also a critical component of our personal well-being.

According to a Mayo Clinic study, “We cannot separate the importance of
a sense of belonging from our physical and mental health. Depression,
anxiety and suicide are common mental health conditions associated with
lacking a sense of belonging.”

If modern societies are to survive and thrive, they must build something
in common. Individualism is an important value, but it must be balanced
by the idea of service to the collective.

Humans are not built to be alone, they need to be part of something
larger than themselves.

As war correspondent Sebastian Junger put it, “Humans don’t mind
hardship, in fact they thrive on it; what they mind is not feeling
necessary. Modern society has perfected the art of making people not
feel necessary.”

Israel has perfected the art of making people feel part of a larger
whole, and that they are needed to play their part.

Dan Senor and Saul Singer are the co-authors of “The Genius of Israel:
The Surprising Resilience of a Divided Nation in a Turbulent World,”
published this week.

--
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.brooklyn-living.com

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
_______________________________________________
Hangout mailing list
Hangout-at-nylxs.com
http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout

  1. 2023-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The death of Israel
  2. 2023-11-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dopes
  3. 2023-11-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] global war on the Jews .... again.
  4. 2023-11-01 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software Supporter -- Issue 187,
  5. 2023-11-02 Aharon Robbins <arnold-at-skeeve.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Gawk 5.3.0 released
  6. 2023-11-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the origins of Islamic hatred
  7. 2023-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hamas Weapons Cache.
  8. 2023-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Haley
  9. 2023-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 40% is less than 50%
  10. 2023-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] global war on the Jews .... again.
  11. 2023-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: RESISTANCE | A Note from Our Executive
  12. 2023-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Worth a read...
  13. 2023-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ethics and reporters
  14. 2023-11-10 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Press shop back online for the holiday season
  15. 2023-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] revolution
  16. 2023-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Still working on the airplane and elevator
  17. 2023-11-13 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #642 - Perl and PAUSE
  18. 2023-11-13 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #642 - Perl and PAUSE
  19. 2023-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Islam being misrepresented on PBS - right now
  20. 2023-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Islam being misrepresented on PBS - right now
  21. 2023-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Nikki Haley... op ed today
  22. 2023-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] State Department funds itself with Jewish blood.
  23. 2023-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Iran in the State Department....
  24. 2023-11-13 embperl-at-actevy.io Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Embperl 3.0.0-rc.1 is released
  25. 2023-11-13 Johns Hopkins Engineering <jhep-at-jhu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Meet the Recruiter -at- Engineering for
  26. 2023-11-14 Johns Hopkins Engineering <jhep-at-jhu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Today_=40_6_P=2EM=2E_ET=2E_Details_t?=
  27. 2023-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Gaza and the UN
  28. 2023-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Gaza and the UN
  29. 2023-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Gaza and the UN
  30. 2023-11-15 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Now's your chance to submit your session and
  31. 2023-11-16 From: "Anouk Rozestraten, FSF" <sales-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Show your support for free software through the
  32. 2023-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Censoring truth ....
  33. 2023-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Crushing Jewish rights at John Hopkins...
  34. 2023-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Removing the bigots and being accountable
  35. 2023-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The LA Times wants Jews to die
  36. 2023-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The LA Times wants Jews to die
  37. 2023-11-20 From: "The Jewish Museum" <reply-at-emails.thejewishmuseum.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hanukkah Family Day at the Jewish Museum is on
  38. 2023-11-20 From: "O'Reilly" <reply-at-et.oreilly.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Your Cyber Sale savings are here.
  39. 2023-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] LA Times supports Hamas Genocide
  40. 2023-11-21 From: "Schanzenbach, Martin" <schanzen-at-gnunet.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] RFC 9498: The GNU Name System
  41. 2023-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Burnout in Congress
  42. 2023-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] no confusion
  43. 2023-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why won't the Jews just die?
  44. 2023-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Generally Speaking
  45. 2023-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Scott Ritter - Weapons Inspector extrodenaire
  46. 2023-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Blood Money
  47. 2023-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Blood Money
  48. 2023-11-27 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #644 - Perl Sponsor?
  49. 2023-11-28 Johns Hopkins Engineering <jhep-at-jhu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Meet the Recruiter -at- Engineering for
  50. 2023-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  51. 2023-11-28 From: "Lee Horowitz" <leeh-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  52. 2023-11-28 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  53. 2023-11-28 James E Keenan <jkeenan-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  54. 2023-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  55. 2023-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  56. 2023-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  57. 2023-11-27 Walt Mankowski <waltman-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  58. 2023-11-27 Walt Mankowski <waltman-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  59. 2023-11-27 Matthew Simon Ryan Cavalletto <simonm-at-mac.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  60. 2023-11-26 Walt Mankowski <waltman-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  61. 2023-11-26 Walt Mankowski <waltman-at-pobox.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  62. 2023-11-26 Walt Mankowski <waltman-at-pobox.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia
  63. 2023-11-28 From: "Greg Farough, DbD" <info-at-defectivebydesign.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Worldwide community of activists protest
  64. 2023-11-28 From: "Greg Farough, DbD" <info-at-defectivebydesign.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Worldwide community of activists protest
  65. 2023-11-28 embperl-at-actevy.io Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Embperl 3.0.0 is released

NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!