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MESSAGE
DATE 2023-11-19
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The LA Times wants Jews to die
Plain and simple, they demand a cease fire and to continue the cycle of
death and violence with Hamas. Fuck them and Fuck Hamas.

If Hamas doesn't like the deaths in this war they know exactly what to
do which is surrender. The leadership will be tried for crimes aganist
humanity and executed like Eichman and the people of Gaza will be able
to redevelop without being a tool for these Nazi's


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Editorial: Cease-fire now. The killing in Gaza must stop - Los Angeles
Times
The Times Editorial Board
4–5 minutes

It has become impossible to distinguish between Israel’s decidedly
non-surgical operation against Hamas militants in Gaza and the
indiscriminate killing of Palestinian civilians. When so-called
humanitarian pauses in the bombardment and ground operations are too
brief to realistically permit innocents to flee, or when there is no
place for non-combatants to go that is not also in the line of fire,
such pauses are so deficient as to be meaningless.

It is time for a cease-fire. It is time for the Biden administration to
assert strong and sustained pressure on the government of Benjamin
Netanyahu to stop attacks that have reportedly already killed more than
11,000 Gazans. The world cannot stand by to witness more slaughter of
civilians.

No one should harbor illusions about Hamas, the radical militant
organization that serves as the de facto Gaza government and began the
current hostilities with its murderous Oct. 7 surprise attack on Israeli
civilians. Militants killed about 1,200 people and continue to hold more
than 200 hostages — Israelis, Americans and others.

Israel claims Hamas has used Shifa Hospital as a command center and
weapons warehouse. Although Israeli soldiers who entered the hospital
were able to produce little evidence of that, there is no reason to
doubt that Hamas would treat Palestinian civilians as human shields.

But Hamas’ atrocities do not justify atrocities in kind. Following
Hamas’ initial attack, Israel instructed the people of northern Gaza to
leave their homes and made no commitment that they would ever be able to
return. Israel’s reprisal destroyed homes and cut off power and
communications, making it impossible for survivors of the bombing even
to search for the remains of family and neighbors beneath the rubble.

Now Israel is signaling that it will step up its assault in southern
Gaza, into which much of the territory’s population of more than 2
million have crowded in response to the warnings to flee the north. They
will not be permitted to enter Egypt on Gaza’s southwestern border, and
they cannot enter Israel. They are trapped.

Already, more children have died in Gaza in the last month than in all
other conflicts around the world this year, according to Save the
Children. That cruel fact is one of many that have turned world opinion
against Israel, and against the U.S., its chief ally and the provider of
most of its weapons. The consequences for both nations will last
generations. The trauma inflicted on Palestinian survivors only
increases the recruiting ability of Israel’s enemies, whether they be
Hamas, Hezbollah or any successors bent on destruction of Israel.

On Wednesday, the United Nations Security Council approved a resolution
calling for “urgent and extended humanitarian pauses and corridors” in
Gaza for “a sufficient number of days” to allow unhindered access for
agencies delivering aid. The U.S. did not vote in favor of the
resolution, but importantly, also did not veto it. Still, pauses and
corridors mean little if they are immediately followed by a resumption
of deadly attacks.

Secretary of State Antony J. Blinken testified at an Oct. 31 Senate
hearing that a cease-fire would “simply consolidate what Hamas has been
able to do and ... potentially repeat what it did another day.” But
neither Israel nor the U.S. has explained how Hamas can be eradicated or
removed from power without an unacceptable level of civilian deaths and
casualties. Nor have they set forth what they intend to happen next.
Israeli occupation?

On his visit to Israel in the wake of Hamas’ initial attack, President
Biden noted that the U.S., following the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11,
2001, made mistakes. The statement was a clear message to Israel: Don’t
blunder as we did. Don’t squander the goodwill of the rest of the world
by killing civilians. Don’t mimic your enemy’s cruelty. Don’t leave a
power vacuum that can be filled by other, even more potent enemies. Have
an exit strategy.

Remaining mindful of America’s mistakes, it is incumbent upon the Biden
administration now to avoid complicity with Israel’s. We are past the
time to excuse the horror in Gaza. Biden has to press Netanyahu hard to
stop the mass, indiscriminate killing. That starts with a call for a
cease-fire.


--
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that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
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