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MESSAGE
DATE 2023-11-28
FROM From: "Lee Horowitz"
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New job at Columbia

IT was six men of Indostan
To learning much inclined,
Who went to see the Elephant
(Though all of them were blind),
That each by observation
Might satisfy his mind.

Also:

California is a garden of Eden
A paradise to live in or see
But believe it or not
You won't find it so hot
If you ain't got that old do-re-mi

As with California and Elephants, so it is with the Island at the Center
of the World...glorious and terrible, [I make weal and I make woe, I am
the lord and I do all these things ] contradictory, multifarious, and
surprise! Better if you have money.

So let's not clutter up the airwaves with all this katzenyammerei, OK?



> On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 09:57:08PM -0500, Matthew Simon Ryan Cavalletto
> wrote:
>> On Nov 27, 2023, at 9:37 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>
>> > Are you living on a different planet?
>>
>> Yes, I'm living on the planet where we have reasonably-objective
>> measurements and we can remember things that happened more than three
>> years ago.
>>
>> And I am disinclined to be convinced by anecdotal reports by some random
>> guy with an unreadable website full of stuff about how "Black Men are
>> dangerous."
>>
>> Really dude — let it go...
>>
>
> I am just one of the "dreadful" people born in NYC to a family that has
> lived continually in NYC since 1834 so we wouldn't know much of what we
> talk about.
>
> I am sure you also grew up in East New York, so you are very familiar
> with growing up is a city where you could stand on the subway platform
> of New Lotts Avenue and look up in all directions and see nothing but
> rubble.
>
> I'm sure you've had the common experience of being surrounded by 15+
> black young men and pounded and beaten to steal 15 cents.
>
> Or grew up in a High School which was afraid to open its cafeteria
> because the last time it did so it ended up with a violent riot with
> several students and faculty ending up at Brookdale hospital.
>
> You are a REAL expert on the City of New York.
>
> You grew up playing softball on an empty lot on Wall Street where the
> Bear Stearns (whatever it is now) bluilding now stands. You remember a
> choke ful onuts on nearly every street in Midtown and the hard working
> black women who ran them befire Fred Black died. You remember school
> hours being cut back to 10AM to 2:30 because of a lack of funds, and
> syringes splatters all about Times Square and the call girls hanging out
> at Nathans on Bway and 45 and the Howard Johnsons.
>
> You rember the Biltmore hotel and the shows at GCT, and watch repair
> place secretedly hidden in the Rooservelt Hotel passage. You remeber
> Penn Station and the Pennsylvania and Stanton hotel, and the Conrad.
>
> Because your an expert on NYC.
>
>
>
> Here are facts for you to chew on:
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/15/nyregion/mta-nyc-budget.html
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-07-17/ny-mta-budget-deficits-through-2027-eliminated-by-revenue-boost
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/24/opinion/eric-adams-nyc-budget.html
>
>
> Unemployment in New York City is 5.4%—more than three times higher than
> in Miami... and that is seriously undercounted.
>
> Nearly 160 Wall Street firms with nearly $1 trillion
> in assets have moved their headquarters out of the state since the end
> of 2019.
>
> New York state and local tax revenue for the first seven months of this
> fiscal year is running $9 billion lower than last year...
>
> according to the WSJ
>
>
> https://www.lohud.com/story/news/politics/albany-watch/2023/10/31/ny-budget-deficit-estimate-cut-in-half-what-that-means-for-2024/71392544007/
>
> https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/bond-investors-largely-ignore-nyc-s-7-billion-deficit-1.2001749
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/nyregion/mta-fare-evasion.html
> (that is laughable there is in ZERO enforcement since the DAs office
> said they wouldn't pursue fare beaters)
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/07/22/nearly-half-of-fare-beaters-caught-this-year-have-had-active-warrants/
>
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/11/27/metro/nyc-schools-chief-tries-to-diffuse-unrest-at-radicalized-high-school/
>
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/11/25/metro/93-of-nyc-grocers-have-been-hit-by-shoplifters-this-year/
>
> This is a case of UNDERREPORTING if ever there was..
>
> https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-05-15/nyc-budget-deficits-forecast-to-be-bigger-than-mayor-s-estimate
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/new-york-city-second-round-budget-cuts-nypd-fdny-dsny/
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/11/09/metro/ny-state-comptroller-rings-alarm-bells-over-big-apples-dire-financial-situation/
>
> https://nypost.com/2023/02/10/we-cant-stop-them-shoplifting-hit-record-highs-in-nyc-last-year/
>
> Let me know if you need more because I haven't even tapped the
> Universities reposoitories of Government data and I haven't evena
> addressed the mentally ill dumped onto the subway, or the sanitation
> problem, graffiti, etc etc.
>
> https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2023/11/12/why-so-many-people-are-fleeing-new-york-city-and-where-they-are-going/
>
> Of all the families I raised my children with TWO remain in NYC since
> 2007 and almost none of the next genration.
>
> My family that has been in NYC for 180 years, I have 6 children and ONE
> is still in NYC because it is dirty, expensive, overtaxed and DANGEROUS.
>
>
>
>> -Simon
>>
>> ———
>>
>
>
>
> --
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>
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