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MESSAGE
DATE 2023-12-19
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] rudy
Opinion | The Tragedy of Rudy Giuliani
The Editorial Board
2–3 minutes

The tragedy of Rudy Giuliani continues to escalate with last week’s jury
award of $148 million in a defamation suit brought by two Georgia
election workers. What a long, strange decline it’s been for the former
mayor who rescued New York City from a previous era of progressive decline.

The eight-member Washington, D.C., jury awarded the two election workers
three times more than the $48 million they sought, and that is likely to
be reduced by the trial judge or an appellate court.

But Ruby Freeman and Wandrea ArShaye Moss, of Fulton County, Ga.,
persuaded the jury and judge that they were falsely accused of
manipulating absentee ballot counts. There’s no doubt the two women
endured considerable abuse and damage to their reputations after they
were singled out by Trump campaign allies, though Mr. Giuliani says he
wasn’t the only person who identified the workers and that other people
did the abusing.

“The absurdity of the number underscores the absurdity of the entire
proceeding,” Mr. Giuliani said, adding that “I have not been allowed to
offer one single piece of evidence in defense, of which I have a lot.”
He’ll get his chance on appeal.

The judgment illustrates the fate of so many who promoted Donald Trump’s
claims of election fraud in 2020. Some, like lawyer Sidney Powell, have
pleaded guilty to crimes. Those who breached the Capitol on Jan. 6,
however naively, have had their lives turned upside down by indictments
and in some cases jail time. Mr. Giuliani could be left bankrupt and
lose his law license.

The only person who may emerge unscathed from his election falsehoods is
Mr. Trump. There’s a lesson in that for those who put loyalty to a
person above their better judgment.
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