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MESSAGE
DATE 2003-12-23
FROM From: "Steve Milo"
SUBJECT Re: RE: [hangout] Microsoft asks Linux users, "How can we get your bu siness?'

Same here, we should be concentrating on our products instead of
addressing the outloud wonderings of why we arent using the
'competition'.

Steve M

----- Original Message -----
From: "Inker, Evan"
Date: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:02 pm
Subject: RE: [hangout] Microsoft asks Linux users, "How can we get your
bu siness?'

>
> David,
>
> I couldn't agree more as any feedback given with just be turned
> around and
> mis-quoted. For fun, I've viewed both surveys and they are literally
> worthless...Its just the humor content that made it worth seeing first
> hand...
>
> Happy Holidays David!
>
> Regards,
>
> Evan M. Inker (New York) x. 4615
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sugar [mailto:dyfet-at-ostel.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 3:19 PM
> To: Inker, Evan; 'Hangout-at-nylxs.com'
> Subject: Re: [hangout] Microsoft asks Linux users, "How can we get
> yourbusiness?'
>
>
> I think generally it should simply be ignored. It had been
> suggested by
> some
> that it might be fun to give selective and deliberately false
> answers, but I
>
> don't think that is an appropriate response either, for that is
> reducing
> ourselves to their level and methods.
>
> On Tuesday 23 December 2003 02:25 pm, Inker, Evan wrote:
> > Title Microsoft asks Linux users, "How can we get your
> business?'>
> > Date 2003.12.21 10:44
> > Author roblimo
> > Topic Linux <"
> target="l">http://www.newsforge.com/search.pl?topic=2>>
> http://www.newsforge.co>
> > Microsoft has started distributing two online surveys to Linux
> User
> > Groups and Linux users in general, one asking primarily about
> home
> > computer use, the other about business use. They apparently
> don't plan
> > to release the results of their surveys, so we and other people
> in the
> > open source community are asking you to look at them and post
> your
> > answers and comments here and on other appropriate sites where,
> in
> > open source style, everyone can see them. Read on for more
> information
> > and links, and please help spread the word about these surveys;
> as far
> > as we know, this is the first time Microsoft has asked Linux
> users why
> > we use Linux instead of their products, and the more results,
> the
> > merrier. Author's Note: I'll reveal some of *my* answers to
> > Microsoft's questions in a comment I'll post shortly after this
> story
> > goes live, just to kick things off.
> >
> > We heard about this survey through an email sent to a LUG
> mailing list
> > that was passed on to us. The email started with these lines:
> >
> > I am a program manager at Microsoft doing some research around
> how we
> > can improve our operating systems. My goal is to help us
> identify
> > capabilities, improvements, and features that Microsoft should
> be
> > focusing on to help our customers over the next 5 years or so.
> >
> > I am particularly interested in hearing from Linux users, and
> get
> > their input about what they feel should be the priorities. In
> > particular, I would like to better understand what it is that
> makes
> > Linux and Open Source solutions so useful for you.
> >
> > It was signed by "Michael Surkan," using the "Reply To" address
> > lnq-at-microsoft.com .
> >
> > A follow-up message in response to a fellow OSDN employee who
> emailed
> > to ask, "Have you contacted just our LUG, or more than one?" said:
> >
> > From: frankwilliams291-at-hotmail.com (Frank Williams)
> > To: [name and email address removed]
> >
> > Thanks so much for agreeing to share your ideas about Linux.
> > Unfortunately, Michael Surkan (the Microsoft program manager who
> > contacted your Linux user
> > group) is a bit overwhelmed with e-mail right now, so I
> volunteered to
> help
> > him by sending the survey URLs to people who want to take his
> survey. I
> > hope you don't mind.
> >
> > Michael has put together some on-line surveys to make it easier
> to
> > collect your answers.
> >
> > One survey asks questions about Linux in the home environment.
> The
> > other survey asks what makes Linux a great option at work. You
> can
> > take whichever survey you feel you have the most knowledge
> about. Feel
> > free to take both surveys if you wish. Or none at all. :)
> >
> > On-line survey about Linux in the home:
> > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=17174325370&c=2206
> >
> > On-line survey about Linux at work:
> > http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=2550325411&c=2206
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Frank Williams
> >
> > So go ahead, make Frank and Michael happy by answering the
> questions.
> > But please don't forget to share at least a few selected answers
> with
> > others, either here on NewsForge or on other Linux/open source
> news
> > and community sites.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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  89. 2003-12-13 From: "P. Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord.altschools.org> Subject: [hangout] is any one comming to tech nite tonight
  90. 2003-12-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] html-at-ssc.com: Linux Journal Weekly Newsletter - December 10
  91. 2003-12-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] United Online Launches Service for Linux-based LindowsOS Computer s Under its NetZero and Juno Brands
  92. 2003-12-12 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] The Few - The Proud: Hey it is a JOB!
  93. 2003-12-12 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] Microsoft's New Toll Road (MUST READ STORY)
  94. 2003-12-12 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Board and General Meeting
  95. 2003-12-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Mailing list not working
  96. 2003-12-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] grepping
  97. 2003-12-11 Steve Milo <slavik914-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Has sar been deprecated?
  98. 2003-12-11 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Board and General Meeting
  99. 2003-12-10 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Must read for those interested in copyright issues
  100. 2003-12-10 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board and General Meeting
  101. 2003-12-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLUG Workshop: An introduction to vim, Friday 12/12 -at- 6:15pm
  102. 2003-12-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLUG Workshop: An introduction to vim, Friday 12/12 -at- 6:15pm
  103. 2003-12-09 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] NYLUG Workshop: An introduction to vim, Friday 12/12 -at- 6:15pm
  104. 2003-12-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] IRS
  105. 2003-12-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] The RIAAs reign of terror is over
  106. 2003-12-20 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] The RIAAs reign of terror is over
  107. 2003-12-09 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] part 6 or 7 Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Microsoft to start charging for FAT format
  108. 2003-12-08 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] part 6 or 7 Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Microsoft to start charging for FAT
  109. 2003-12-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Part 5 Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Microsoft to start charging for FAT format
  110. 2003-12-06 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Re: [hangout] part3 Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Microsoft to start charging for FAT format
  111. 2003-12-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Part 4 Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Microsoft to start charging for FAT format
  112. 2003-12-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] part3 Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Microsoft to start charging for FAT format
  113. 2003-12-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] part2 Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Microsoft to start charging for FAT format
  114. 2003-12-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Microsoft to start charging for FAT format
  115. 2003-12-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] More on Spain's LSSI
  116. 2003-12-06 Mike Richardson - NYLXS PRESIDENT <miker-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [DMCA_Discuss] Spain's LSSI: All websites must register
  117. 2003-12-11 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] RE: [fairuse-talk] [linux-elitists] Monday 15 Dec: first all-Open
  118. 2003-12-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: [linux-elitists] Let's help Google get better results for SCO searches. [dmarti-at-zgp.org]

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