Sun Mar 7 01:46:56 2021
EVENTS
 FREE
SOFTWARE
INSTITUTE

POLITICS
JOBS
MEMBERS'
CORNER

MAILING
LIST

NYLXS Mailing Lists and Archives
NYLXS Members have a lot to say and share but we don't keep many secrets. Join the Hangout Mailing List and say your peice.

DATE 2007-04-01

HANGOUT

2021-03-07 | 2021-02-07 | 2021-01-07 | 2020-12-07 | 2020-11-07 | 2020-10-07 | 2020-09-07 | 2020-08-07 | 2020-07-07 | 2020-06-07 | 2020-05-07 | 2020-04-07 | 2020-03-07 | 2020-02-07 | 2020-01-07 | 2019-12-07 | 2019-11-07 | 2019-10-07 | 2019-09-07 | 2019-08-07 | 2019-07-07 | 2019-06-07 | 2019-05-07 | 2019-04-07 | 2019-03-07 | 2019-02-07 | 2019-01-07 | 2018-12-07 | 2018-11-07 | 2018-10-07 | 2018-09-07 | 2018-08-07 | 2018-07-07 | 2018-06-07 | 2018-05-07 | 2018-04-07 | 2018-03-07 | 2018-02-07 | 2018-01-07 | 2017-12-07 | 2017-11-07 | 2017-10-07 | 2017-09-07 | 2017-08-07 | 2017-07-07 | 2017-06-07 | 2017-05-07 | 2017-04-07 | 2017-03-07 | 2017-02-07 | 2017-01-07 | 2016-12-07 | 2016-11-07 | 2016-10-07 | 2016-09-07 | 2016-08-07 | 2016-07-07 | 2016-06-07 | 2016-05-07 | 2016-04-07 | 2016-03-07 | 2016-02-07 | 2016-01-07 | 2015-12-07 | 2015-11-07 | 2015-10-07 | 2015-09-07 | 2015-08-07 | 2015-07-07 | 2015-06-07 | 2015-05-07 | 2015-04-07 | 2015-03-07 | 2015-02-07 | 2015-01-07 | 2014-12-07 | 2014-11-07 | 2014-10-07 | 2014-09-07 | 2014-08-07 | 2014-07-07 | 2014-06-07 | 2014-05-07 | 2014-04-07 | 2014-03-07 | 2014-02-07 | 2014-01-07 | 2013-12-07 | 2013-11-07 | 2013-10-07 | 2013-09-07 | 2013-08-07 | 2013-07-07 | 2013-06-07 | 2013-05-07 | 2013-04-07 | 2013-03-07 | 2013-02-07 | 2013-01-07 | 2012-12-07 | 2012-11-07 | 2012-10-07 | 2012-09-07 | 2012-08-07 | 2012-07-07 | 2012-06-07 | 2012-05-07 | 2012-04-07 | 2012-03-07 | 2012-02-07 | 2012-01-07 | 2011-12-07 | 2011-11-07 | 2011-10-07 | 2011-09-07 | 2011-08-07 | 2011-07-07 | 2011-06-07 | 2011-05-07 | 2011-04-07 | 2011-03-07 | 2011-02-07 | 2011-01-07 | 2010-12-07 | 2010-11-07 | 2010-10-07 | 2010-09-07 | 2010-08-07 | 2010-07-07 | 2010-06-07 | 2010-05-07 | 2010-04-07 | 2010-03-07 | 2010-02-07 | 2010-01-07 | 2009-12-07 | 2009-11-07 | 2009-10-07 | 2009-09-07 | 2009-08-07 | 2009-07-07 | 2009-06-07 | 2009-05-07 | 2009-04-07 | 2009-03-07 | 2009-02-07 | 2009-01-07 | 2008-12-07 | 2008-11-07 | 2008-10-07 | 2008-09-07 | 2008-08-07 | 2008-07-07 | 2008-06-07 | 2008-05-07 | 2008-04-07 | 2008-03-07 | 2008-02-07 | 2008-01-07 | 2007-12-07 | 2007-11-07 | 2007-10-07 | 2007-09-07 | 2007-08-07 | 2007-07-07 | 2007-06-07 | 2007-05-07 | 2007-04-07 | 2007-03-07 | 2007-02-07 | 2007-01-07 | 2006-12-07 | 2006-11-07 | 2006-10-07 | 2006-09-07 | 2006-08-07 | 2006-07-07 | 2006-06-07 | 2006-05-07 | 2006-04-07 | 2006-03-07 | 2006-02-07 | 2006-01-07 | 2005-12-07 | 2005-11-07 | 2005-10-07 | 2005-09-07 | 2005-08-07 | 2005-07-07 | 2005-06-07 | 2005-05-07 | 2005-04-07 | 2005-03-07 | 2005-02-07 | 2005-01-07 | 2004-12-07 | 2004-11-07 | 2004-10-07 | 2004-09-07 | 2004-08-07 | 2004-07-07 | 2004-06-07 | 2004-05-07 | 2004-04-07 | 2004-03-07 | 2004-02-07 | 2004-01-07 | 2003-12-07 | 2003-11-07 | 2003-10-07 | 2003-09-07 | 2003-08-07 | 2003-07-07 | 2003-06-07 | 2003-05-07 | 2003-04-07 | 2003-03-07 | 2003-02-07 | 2003-01-07 | 2002-12-07 | 2002-11-07 | 2002-10-07 | 2002-09-07 | 2002-08-07 | 2002-07-07 | 2002-06-07 | 2002-05-07 | 2002-04-07 | 2002-03-07 | 2002-02-07 | 2002-01-07 | 2001-12-07 | 2001-11-07 | 2001-10-07 | 2001-09-07 | 2001-08-07 | 2001-07-07 | 2001-06-07 | 2001-05-07 | 2001-04-07 | 2001-03-07 | 2001-02-07 | 2001-01-07 | 2000-12-07 | 2000-11-07 | 2000-10-07 | 2000-09-07 | 2000-08-07 | 2000-07-07 | 2000-06-07 | 2000-05-07 | 2000-04-07 | 2000-03-07 | 2000-02-07 | 2000-01-07 | 1999-12-07

Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2007-04-26
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Adobe's new Free Software Platform
From owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Thu Apr 26 11:07:32 2007
Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id
l3QF7Usx001990 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2007
11:07:32 -0400
Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com
(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l3QF7TUN001989 for hangout-outgoings; Thu, 26 Apr
2007 11:07:29 -0400
X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to
owner-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f
Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by
www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id
l3QF7RMI001986 for ; Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:07:29 -0400
Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com
(8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id l3QF7RMD001985 for hangout-at-nylxs.com; Thu, 26 Apr
2007 11:07:27 -0400
Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 11:07:27 -0400
From: Ruben Safir
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Adobe's new Free Software Platform
Message-ID: <20070426150727.GA1971-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Disposition: inline
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i
Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Precedence: bulk
X-Evolution-Source: mbox:/var/mail/ruben
X-Evolution: 0000177a-0000
Content-Length: 5051
Lines: 108
Status: RO
X-Status:
X-Keywords:
X-UID: 575

oftware Applications News

26 April 2007 Adobe Flexes open source muscle

By Elizabeth Montalbano, IDG News Service

Adobe will open source its Flex software development kit (SDK) this
year, hoping to draw in Internet developers, and clean up the company's
reputation for proprietary code.

The SDK includes the two developer languages used to write Flex
applications, MXML and ActionScript 3.0; class libraries; components
such as user-interface controls and layout containers; and the code
compiler. Adobe will release all of these elements under the Mozilla
Public License by the end of the year, said Jeff Whatcott, vice president
of product marketing.

The move is part of Adobe's makeover as an ally to the open source
developer community, Whatcott said.

The company hopes this strategy will help Flex become more widely used,
as it is integral to Adobe's strategy to increase its position with
developers in the rapidly growing rich Internet applications market.

Traditionally, Adobe has been seen as a more proprietary niche player
in the digital document-creation and web development tools space. For
example, Adobe's ubiquitous portable document format (PDF), while
available for free, has never been available to the community as a
standard. As part of its more open style, Adobe recently submitted PDF
to the International Organization for Standardization to change that.

Acquiring Macromedia, the original Flex creator, in 2005 helped Adobe
seem more developer-friendly because of that company's Java-based
software portfolio and popularity with web developers. But even then
Adobe acquired a set of proprietary tools such as Flash - on which Flex
is based - and Dreamweaver, which have a loyal following but are not
specifically aimed at pulling in open source loyalists.

Adobe needs the open source community because Microsoft is encroaching
on its territory with its forthcoming Expression toolset and recently
unveiled Silverlight technology. Opening up Flex could help Adobe earn
a critical mass of developers it will need to fend off Microsoft going
forward.

Joe Berkovitz, chief architect with Allurent, a company that has built
software using Flex, said open-sourcing the Flex SDK will serve both
developers and Adobe well.

"[Flex] is a young platform, and because Adobe has had the source exposed
for some time, developers that work closely with it will have a lot of
insight on how to make [Flex] better," Berkovitz said.

Adobe, too, will gain from differentiating itself from Microsoft through
its open source affiliation, he added.

"It takes the comparison between [Microsoft's competing technologies]
WPF (Windows Presentation Foundation), Silverlight and Flash/Flex to
a different level," Berkovitz said. "It's not just what features are
best ... but what process are each of the platforms following as they
evolve. A process based on open source is going to be inherently more
powerful and scale better."

The move to open-sourcing the Flex SDK will be a gradual transition,
Whatcott said.

Currently, the SDK is available for free from the Flex developer site,
and developers can modify the source code for any of the elements,
but not submit changes back to other Flex developers.

Beginning in June, developers will be able to view Flex's bugs in a public
bug database and receive fixes for those bugs daily, Whatcott said. They
also will get new code drops every day as Adobe readies the next version
of Flex, which is currently in its alpha stage of development.

Finally, by the end of the year, Adobe will have established on the Flex
website a public central code repository that will allow developers to
contribute changes back to the broader Flex community.

The entire Adobe Flex portfolio includes the SDK, the Flex Builder
development environment and Flex Data Services, J2EE-based technology
that connects the other Flex elements to servers on the back end.

Adobe will continue to sell Flex Builder and Flex Data Services for a
fee and is not open-sourcing those components of the package, Whatcott
said. However, developers don't need Flex Builder to develop Flex-based
applications, he said. They can use any text-editing tool or IDE,
including common Java IDEs and Microsoft's Visual Studio.Net.

-- http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff http://www.nylxs.com -
Leadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world -
RI Safir 1998

http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS -
RI Safir 2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers
to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in
our own society."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
damned.< You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and
technology have been attacted at the hip since the 1st dynasty in
Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."

  1. 2007-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad news for VoIP
  2. 2007-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad news for VoIP
  3. 2007-04-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRMs last day - dont bet on it
  4. 2007-04-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  5. 2007-04-14 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  6. 2007-04-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Yo Ho - time for a meeting
  7. 2007-04-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  8. 2007-04-16 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnu.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad news for VoIP
  9. 2007-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad news for VoIP
  10. 2007-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  11. 2007-04-16 David Sugar <dyfet-at-gnu.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bad news for VoIP
  12. 2007-04-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FCC Broadband spectrum up for sale
  13. 2007-04-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Death of Web Radio
  14. 2007-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] AT&T history
  15. 2007-04-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  16. 2007-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  17. 2007-04-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  18. 2007-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Break In attempts on ssh
  19. 2007-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  20. 2007-04-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  21. 2007-04-18 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  22. 2007-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  23. 2007-04-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Break In attempts on ssh
  24. 2007-04-19 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  25. 2007-04-20 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Break In attempts on ssh
  26. 2007-04-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Break In attempts on ssh
  27. 2007-04-20 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Break In attempts on ssh
  28. 2007-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meeting Thursday at the Killarny Rose
  29. 2007-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Imus Campaign
  30. 2007-04-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meeting Thursday at the Killarny
  31. 2007-04-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DRM Free MP3s - Forbes
  32. 2007-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Next Level of Hacking - IRobots
  33. 2007-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hacking a Robot
  34. 2007-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meeting Thursday at the Killarny
  35. 2007-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Adobe's new Free Software Platform
  36. 2007-04-26 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meeting Thursday at the Killarny
  37. 2007-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meeting Thursday at the Killarny
  38. 2007-04-26 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next NYLXS Meeting Thursday at the Killarny
  39. 2007-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting - Wednesday
  40. 2007-04-30 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting - Wednesday
  41. 2007-04-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting - Wednesday
  42. 2007-04-30 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting - Wednesday
  43. 2007-04-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Passover Meals
  44. 2007-04-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Sound Analysis and CPU power
  45. 2007-04-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ron-at-vnetworx.net: [nylug-talk] Google speaker series(4/5): Luiz Barroso, Watts, Faults, and Other Fascinating Dirty Words Computer Architects Can No Longer Afford to Ignore]
  46. 2007-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [chris.travers-at-gmail.com: Saw your older SQL-Ledger posts]
  47. 2007-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [linuxworldexpo-at-idg.com: .org Pavilion Call for Papers Now Open]
  48. 2007-04-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] vote for the 10.3's slogan
  49. 2007-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] vote for the 10.3's slogan
  50. 2007-04-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [opensuse] vote for the 10.3's slogan

NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!