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DATE 2016-01-22
FROM Christopher League
SUBJECT Re: [Learn] CS664
From learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Fri Jan 22 19:55:07 2016
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Yes, the package declaration. Packages correspond to directories, so
when you compile this it creates `./com/company/Main.class` and then you
run it using

% java com.company.Main

You can leave out the package declaration and it will stay in the same
directory.

CL

Ruben Safir writes:

> why doesn't this one work?
>
> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ java Main
> Error: Could not find or load main class Main
>
>
> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ javac Main.java
> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ java Main
> Error: Could not find or load main class Main
>
> package com.company;
>
> public class Main {
>
> public static void main(String[] args) {
> // write your code here
> System.out.println("Hello, cs664s16!");
> }
> }
>
>
> I presume it has something to do with the package declaration
>
>
> On 01/22/2016 10:23 AM, Christopher League wrote:
>>=20
>> Of course it works, you just have it backwards:
>>=20
>> - The `.class` file is **binary** like `.o`, so you don't edit it with
>> `vim`.
>>=20
>> - The `.java` file is your source file, so that's what you edit.
>>=20
>> - Then you compile the `.java` file with `javac` (the compiler) and
>> that generates the `.class`.
>>=20
>> - Then you run the `.class` with `java` which is the virtual machine.
>> (But you just specify the name of the class, and leave out the
>> `.class`).
>>=20
>> - Also, if the declared name of your class (as in `class Hello`) does
>> not match the filename (maybe it's `myprog.java`), the class file it
>> generates will use the declared name rather than the filename. So
>> `myprog.java` still compiles to `Hello.class` if it declares `class
>> Hello`.
>>=20
>> See transcript:
>>=20
>> ~~~~
>> % cat Hello.java
>> class Hello {
>> public static void main(String[] args) {
>> System.out.println("Hello world.");
>> }
>> }
>> % javac Hello.java
>> % java Hello
>> Hello world.
>>=20
>> Script done on Fri 22 Jan 2016 10:18:36 AM EST
>> ~~~~
>>=20
>> CL
>>=20
>> Ruben Safir writes:
>>=20
>>> On 01/22/2016 09:02 AM, Christopher League wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To get their 1-year license you don't need picture ID if you use a
>>>> `.edu` address. And even then you don't need an account because there =
is
>>>> the **IntelliJ community edition.** The community edition is **free
>>>> software** (FSF definition) because it's distributed using the Apache
>>>> 2.0 license.
>>>> So that should meet your requirements.
>>>
>>>
>>> Or maybe not
>>>
>>> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ vim ./Main.class
>>> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ java ./Main.java
>>> Error: Could not find or load main class ..Main.java
>>>
>>>
>>> I changed the classpath with no luck
>>>
>>> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ vim ./Main.class
>>> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ java ./Main.java
>>> Error: Could not find or load main class ..Main.java
>>> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ java -classpath .:$CLASSPATH Main.
>>> Main.class Main.java
>>> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ java -classpath .:$CLASSPATH Main.java
>>> Error: Could not find or load main class Main.java
>>> [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ set|grep CLASS
>>> CLASSPATH=3D.:.:/home/ruben/GNUstep/Library/Libraries/Java:/root/GNUste=
p/Library/Libraries/Java:/usr/lib/GNUstep/Libraries/Java
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> However, yes -- we can proceed with your preferred `vi`/`sh` IDE. When
>>>> programs get more complicated than Hello World, you'll want a build
>>>> system. (Unfortunately, `make` doesn't work so well for Java.) To build
>>>> non-trivial programs, I recommend `gradle` (also Apache 2.0).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So here's the essence of the software setup:
>>>>
>>>> - You still need an account on -- that's a
>>>> server I administer (although it is virtual) and it's free software
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> - Upload your SSH public key to that server so that `git` can log in.
>>>>
>>>> - Create a project on that server, as described in the instructions.
>>>>
>>>> - Give my account access to your project on the server.
>>>>
>>>> - `git clone` using the URL for the project, so now you have a local
>>>> copy.
>>>>
>>>> - Create a Java "hello world" program, build and test it. (Can just
>>>> use `javac` to compile and `java` to run -- either go with JDK7 if
>>>> you're okay with that license, or try OpenJDK8.
>>>>
>>>> - Then do `git add` then `git commit` and `git push` to upload your
>>>> code to the server where I can access it.
>>>>
>>>> That's all I need for right now. When we have some more classes and
>>>> libraries, we can talk about getting `gradle` to build the code.
>>>>
>>>> Also, work on the exercises in the language theory notes -- they will
>>>> help.
>>>>
>>>> CL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ruben Safir writes:
>>>>
>>>>> OK - to be fair, I looked at the jetbrain, it I'm not sending them pi=
cture ids
>>>>> of me, or agreeing with their license.=20=20
>>>>>
>>>>> So please, Dr League, just tell me what you want for the first assign=
ment
>>>>> and I'll figure it out. I don't need a broken and encumbered editor =
with
>>>>> integrated git access. I have shells, and X11, git and such.=20=20
>>>>>
>>>>> CHRIS I HAVE CANCER, a bone tumor planted in my hand like a time bomb=
. I don't=20
>>>>> want to waste what is left of my life learning the greatest proprieta=
ry object=20
>>>>> of the day
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 05:46:55PM -0500, Christopher League wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I added some fairly comprehensive notes about language theory:
>>>>>> and embedded within th=
em
>>>>>> are some exercises you probably should try, to make sure you underst=
and
>>>>>> about automata and grammars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also uploaded instructions for setting up your Git server account =
and
>>>>>> Java development environment: > so
>>>>>> you can get started with that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The software setup instructions form the first part of assignment 1,=
but
>>>>>> there will be a bit more yet to come (probably available by Friday
>>>>>> afternoon).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --=20
>>>>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>>>>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>>>>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>>>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com=20
>>>>>
>>>>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>>>>> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>>>>> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive=20
>>>>> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
>>>>> http://www.brooklyn-living.com=20
>>>>>
>>>>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,=20
>>>>> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --=20
>>> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
>>> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
>>> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>>>
>>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
>>> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
>>> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
>>> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
>>> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>>>
>>> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
>>> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
>>=20
>
>
> --=20
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

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Yes, the package declaration. Packages correspond to directories, so whe=
n you compile this it creates ./com/company/Main.class and the=
n you run it using


% java com.company.Main

You can leave out the package declaration and it will stay in the same d=
irectory.


CL


Ruben Safir ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com=
writes:



why doesn=E2=80=99t this one work?


[ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ java Main Error: Could not find or load main=
class Main


[ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ javac Main.java [ruben-at-localhost cs664s16]$ =
java Main Error: Could not find or load main class Main


package com.company;


public class Main {


public static void main(String[] args) {
// write your code here
System.out.println("Hello, cs664s16!");
}

}


I presume it has something to do with the package declaration


On 01/22/2016 10:23 AM, Christopher League wrote: > > Of course it=
works, you just have it backwards: > > - The .class fil=
e is binary like .o, so you don=E2=80=99t edi=
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args) { > System.out.println(=E2=80=9CHello world.=E2=80=9D); > } &g=
t; } > % javac Hello.java > % java Hello > Hello world. > > =
Script done on Fri 22 Jan 2016 10:18:36 AM EST > ~~ > >=
CL > > Ruben Safir ruben-at-mrbrk=
lyn.com
writes: > >> On 01/22/2016 09:02 AM, Christopher Leagu=
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>http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#apache2
>>> =
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on that server, as described in the instructions. >>> >>>=
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en Safir
ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com write=
s: >>> >>>> OK - to be fair, I looked at the jetbrain,=
it I=E2=80=99m not sending them picture ids >>>> of me, or agr=
eeing with their license.
>>>> >>>> So please,=
Dr League, just tell me what you want for the first assignment >>>=
;> and I=E2=80=99ll figure it out. I don=E2=80=99t need a broken and enc=
umbered editor with >>>> integrated git access. I have shells, =
and X11, git and such.
>>>> >>>> CHRIS I HAVE =
CANCER, a bone tumor planted in my hand like a time bomb. I don=E2=80=99t &=
gt;>>> want to waste what is left of my life learning the greatest=
proprietary object >>>> of the day >>>> >>&g=
t;> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 05:46:55PM=
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I added some fairly comprehensive notes about language theory: >>>=
;>> uri">https://liucs.net/cs664s16/lang-theory.html and embedded within th=
em >>>>> are some exercises you probably should try, to make=
sure you understand >>>>> about automata and grammars. >=
>>>> >>>>> I also uploaded instructions for sett=
ing up your Git server account and >>>>> Java development en=
vironment: =
https://liucs.net/cs664s16/setup.html
so >>>>> you can g=
et started with that. >>>>> >>>>> The softwar=
e setup instructions form the first part of assignment 1, but >>>&=
gt;> there will be a bit more yet to come (probably available by Friday =
>>>>> afternoon). tml" class=3D"uri">https://liucs.net/cs664s16/a1.html >>>>&=
gt; >>>>> CL >>>> >>>> >>>&=
gt; >>>> >>>> =E2=80=93 >>>> So many im=
migrant groups have swept through our town >>>> that Brooklyn, =
like Atlantis, reaches mythological >>>> proportions in the min=
d of the world - RI Safir 1998 >>>> http://www.mrbrklyn.com >=
;>>> >>>> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI =
Safir 2002 >>>> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development i=
n Free Software >>>> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpub=
lished Archive >>>> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! >>=
;>> http://www.brooklyn-living.com >>>> >>>> =
Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, >>&=
gt;> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 =
>>> >> >> >> =E2=80=93 >> So many immigran=
t groups have swept through our town >> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis,=
reaches mythological >> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Sa=
fir 1998 >> http://www.mrbrklyn.com >> >> DRM is THEFT - =
We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 >> http://www.nylxs.com - Lea=
dership Development in Free Software >> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/reso=
urces - Unpublished Archive >> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! &g=
t;> http://www.brooklyn-living.com >> >> Being so tracked is=
for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, >> but incompatible wi=
th living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013 >


=E2=80=93 So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Broo=
klyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the wo=
rld - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com


DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.=
com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/reso=
urces - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.=
brooklyn-living.com


Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but in=
compatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013






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