Tue Apr 23 12:45:48 2024
EVENTS
 FREE
SOFTWARE
INSTITUTE

POLITICS
JOBS
MEMBERS'
CORNER

MAILING
LIST

NYLXS Mailing Lists and Archives
NYLXS Members have a lot to say and share but we don't keep many secrets. Join the Hangout Mailing List and say your peice.

DATE 2016-01-01

LEARN

2024-04-23 | 2024-03-23 | 2024-02-23 | 2024-01-23 | 2023-12-23 | 2023-11-23 | 2023-10-23 | 2023-09-23 | 2023-08-23 | 2023-07-23 | 2023-06-23 | 2023-05-23 | 2023-04-23 | 2023-03-23 | 2023-02-23 | 2023-01-23 | 2022-12-23 | 2022-11-23 | 2022-10-23 | 2022-09-23 | 2022-08-23 | 2022-07-23 | 2022-06-23 | 2022-05-23 | 2022-04-23 | 2022-03-23 | 2022-02-23 | 2022-01-23 | 2021-12-23 | 2021-11-23 | 2021-10-23 | 2021-09-23 | 2021-08-23 | 2021-07-23 | 2021-06-23 | 2021-05-23 | 2021-04-23 | 2021-03-23 | 2021-02-23 | 2021-01-23 | 2020-12-23 | 2020-11-23 | 2020-10-23 | 2020-09-23 | 2020-08-23 | 2020-07-23 | 2020-06-23 | 2020-05-23 | 2020-04-23 | 2020-03-23 | 2020-02-23 | 2020-01-23 | 2019-12-23 | 2019-11-23 | 2019-10-23 | 2019-09-23 | 2019-08-23 | 2019-07-23 | 2019-06-23 | 2019-05-23 | 2019-04-23 | 2019-03-23 | 2019-02-23 | 2019-01-23 | 2018-12-23 | 2018-11-23 | 2018-10-23 | 2018-09-23 | 2018-08-23 | 2018-07-23 | 2018-06-23 | 2018-05-23 | 2018-04-23 | 2018-03-23 | 2018-02-23 | 2018-01-23 | 2017-12-23 | 2017-11-23 | 2017-10-23 | 2017-09-23 | 2017-08-23 | 2017-07-23 | 2017-06-23 | 2017-05-23 | 2017-04-23 | 2017-03-23 | 2017-02-23 | 2017-01-23 | 2016-12-23 | 2016-11-23 | 2016-10-23 | 2016-09-23 | 2016-08-23 | 2016-07-23 | 2016-06-23 | 2016-05-23 | 2016-04-23 | 2016-03-23 | 2016-02-23 | 2016-01-23 | 2015-12-23 | 2015-11-23 | 2015-10-23 | 2015-09-23 | 2015-08-23 | 2015-07-23 | 2015-06-23 | 2015-05-23 | 2015-04-23 | 2015-03-23 | 2015-02-23 | 2015-01-23 | 2014-12-23 | 2014-11-23 | 2014-10-23

Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2016-01-22
FROM Christopher League
SUBJECT Re: [Learn] CS664
From learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Fri Jan 22 19:55:20 2016
Return-Path:
X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com
Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com
Received: from www.mrbrklyn.com (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82])
by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8368616249E;
Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:55:20 -0500 (EST)
X-Original-To: learn-at-www.mrbrklyn.com
Delivered-To: learn-at-www.mrbrklyn.com
Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000)
id F3FAC16112C; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:17:36 -0500 (EST)
Resent-From: Ruben Safir
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:17:36 -0500
Resent-Message-ID: <20160123001736.GH6893-at-www.mrbrklyn.com>
Resent-To: learn-at-mrbrklyn.com
X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
Received: from B-EXH-EDGE1.liunet.edu (b-edge1.smtp.liu.edu [148.4.248.206])
by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 028E816112B
for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:02:26 -0500 (EST)
Received: from B-EXH-3.liunet.edu (148.4.250.212) by B-EXH-EDGE1.liunet.edu
(148.4.248.206) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.210.2; Fri, 22 Jan
2016 09:02:13 -0500
Received: from localhost (96.250.202.23) by B-EXH-3.liunet.edu (148.4.250.212)
with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1130.7;
Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:02:25 -0500
From: Christopher League
To: Ruben Safir
In-Reply-To: <20160122131000.GA17212-at-www.mrbrklyn.com>
References: <87h9i64kkg.fsf-at-lydrik.home.lan>
<20160122131000.GA17212-at-www.mrbrklyn.com>
User-Agent: Notmuch/0.21 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.5.1
(x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:02:22 -0500
Message-ID: <87bn8d4sr5.fsf-at-lydrik.home.lan>
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Originating-IP: [96.250.202.23]
X-ClientProxiedBy: U-EXH-CAS.liunet.edu (148.4.184.26) To B-EXH-3.liunet.edu
(148.4.250.212)
X-UID: 5778
Subject: Re: [Learn] CS664
X-BeenThere: learn-at-nylxs.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
List-Id:
List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive:
List-Post:
List-Help:
List-Subscribe: ,

Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1197051263=="
Errors-To: learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com
Sender: "Learn"

--===============1197051263==
Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="===-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256;
protocol="application/pgp-signature"

--===-=-=
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-="

--=-=-=
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="==-=-="

--==-=-=
Content-Type: text/plain
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


To get their 1-year license you don't need picture ID if you use a
`.edu` address. And even then you don't need an account because there is
the **IntelliJ community edition.** The community edition is **free
software** (FSF definition) because it's distributed using the Apache
2.0 license.
So that should meet your requirements.

However, yes -- we can proceed with your preferred `vi`/`sh` IDE. When
programs get more complicated than Hello World, you'll want a build
system. (Unfortunately, `make` doesn't work so well for Java.) To build
non-trivial programs, I recommend `gradle` (also Apache 2.0).


So here's the essence of the software setup:

- You still need an account on -- that's a
server I administer (although it is virtual) and it's free software


- Upload your SSH public key to that server so that `git` can log in.

- Create a project on that server, as described in the instructions.

- Give my account access to your project on the server.

- `git clone` using the URL for the project, so now you have a local
copy.

- Create a Java "hello world" program, build and test it. (Can just
use `javac` to compile and `java` to run -- either go with JDK7 if
you're okay with that license, or try OpenJDK8.

- Then do `git add` then `git commit` and `git push` to upload your
code to the server where I can access it.

That's all I need for right now. When we have some more classes and
libraries, we can talk about getting `gradle` to build the code.

Also, work on the exercises in the language theory notes -- they will
help.

CL


Ruben Safir writes:

> OK - to be fair, I looked at the jetbrain, it I'm not sending them pictur=
e ids
> of me, or agreeing with their license.=20=20
>
> So please, Dr League, just tell me what you want for the first assignment
> and I'll figure it out. I don't need a broken and encumbered editor with
> integrated git access. I have shells, and X11, git and such.=20=20
>
> CHRIS I HAVE CANCER, a bone tumor planted in my hand like a time bomb. I=
don't=20
> want to waste what is left of my life learning the greatest proprietary o=
bject=20
> of the day
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 05:46:55PM -0500, Christopher League wrote:
>>=20
>> I added some fairly comprehensive notes about language theory:
>> and embedded within them
>> are some exercises you probably should try, to make sure you understand
>> about automata and grammars.
>>=20
>> I also uploaded instructions for setting up your Git server account and
>> Java development environment: so
>> you can get started with that.
>>=20
>> The software setup instructions form the first part of assignment 1, but
>> there will be a bit more yet to come (probably available by Friday
>> afternoon).
>>=20
>> CL
>
>
>
>
> --=20
> So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> http://www.mrbrklyn.com=20
>
> DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive=20
> http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> http://www.brooklyn-living.com=20
>
> Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,=20
> but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

--==-=-=
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable






1.0, user-scalable=3Dyes">




To get their 1-year license you don=E2=80=99t need picture ID if you use=
a .edu address. And even then you don=E2=80=99t need an accou=
nt because there is the IntelliJ community edition. The co=
mmunity edition is free software (FSF definition) because =
it=E2=80=99s distributed using the Apache 2.0 license. w.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#apache2" class=3D"uri">http://www.g=
nu.org/licenses/license-list.en.html#apache2
So that should meet your r=
equirements.


However, yes =E2=80=93 we can proceed with your preferred vi>/sh IDE. When programs get more complicated than Hello World,=
you=E2=80=99ll want a build system. (Unfortunately, make does=
n=E2=80=99t work so well for Java.) To build non-trivial programs, I recomm=
end gradle (also Apache 2.0). ense/" class=3D"uri">http://gradle.org/license/


So here=E2=80=99s the essence of the software setup:



  • You still need an account on s=3D"uri">https://git.liucs.net/ =E2=80=93 that=E2=80=99s a server I ad=
    minister (although it is virtual) and it=E2=80=99s free software "https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/blob/master/LICENSE" class=3D"uri"=
    >https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab-ce/blob/master/LICENSE


  • Upload your SSH public key to that server so that git c=
    an log in.


  • Create a project on that server, as described in the instructions.p>


  • Give my account access to your project on the server.


  • git clone using the URL for the project, so now you hav=
    e a local copy.


  • Create a Java =E2=80=9Chello world=E2=80=9D program, build and test =
    it. (Can just use javac to compile and java to ru=
    n =E2=80=93 either go with JDK7 if you=E2=80=99re okay with that license, o=
    r try OpenJDK8.


  • Then do git add then git commit and =
    git push
    to upload your code to the server where I can access it.>



That=E2=80=99s all I need for right now. When we have some more classes =
and libraries, we can talk about getting gradle to build the c=
ode.


Also, work on the exercises in the language theory notes =E2=80=93 they =
will help. https://li=
ucs.net/cs664s16/


CL


Ruben Safir ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com=
writes:



OK - to be fair, I looked at the jetbrain, it I=E2=80=99m not sending th=
em picture ids of me, or agreeing with their license.


So please, Dr League, just tell me what you want for the first assignmen=
t and I=E2=80=99ll figure it out. I don=E2=80=99t need a broken and encumbe=
red editor with integrated git access. I have shells, and X11, git and such=
.


CHRIS I HAVE CANCER, a bone tumor planted in my hand like a time bomb. I=
don=E2=80=99t want to waste what is left of my life learning the greatest =
proprietary object of the day


On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 05:46:55PM -0500, Christopher League wrote: >=
> I added some fairly comprehensive notes about language theory: > <=
a href=3D"https://liucs.net/cs664s16/lang-theory.html" class=3D"uri">https:=
//liucs.net/cs664s16/lang-theory.html and embedded within them > are=
some exercises you probably should try, to make sure you understand > a=
bout automata and grammars. > > I also uploaded instructions for sett=
ing up your Git server account and > Java development environment: ef=3D"https://liucs.net/cs664s16/setup.html" class=3D"uri">https://liucs.ne=
t/cs664s16/setup.html
so > you can get started with that. > > =
The software setup instructions form the first part of assignment 1, but &g=
t; there will be a bit more yet to come (probably available by Friday > =
afternoon). ht=
tps://liucs.net/cs664s16/a1.html
> > CL


=E2=80=93 So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Broo=
klyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the wo=
rld - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com


DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.=
com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/reso=
urces - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.=
brooklyn-living.com


Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps, but in=
compatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013






--==-=-=--

--=-=-=--

--===-=-=
Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v2

iQEcBAEBCAAGBQJWojZuAAoJEGuLsz1PMbCLnnUIALmlbkdAyVxMaQp8r37/phmP
XGkLuoH9jJuelPb+ORX7orc3IVCQHzoy1elgkAu69j04XS4OySKxkB9dDy0xEgA8
gyGfyMMARnrSl02Ikiwb6ARRZJ/vKcscKeCNX4wotVefSDM60WUEBiDGwq0LxMMe
bmoE9H0fwZuQUljQu9iXwuwMsqoPQaomfRwEBlykmboHiQ8jO8lp4QaSBZeHQ7N5
M791sNJxPtzHl/0f/yGcy3+ZBl/l3s49Kgt50sqoqWUlQwAn/A8FfL5SDMe6SaDT
nxhCgGCA0bXSbxZBN+rI8Zwx6Pmfm4xzrP492Tl4kjsidl0y1mb7k1UVVhu6chY=
=uX3p
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
--===-=-=--

--===============1197051263==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________
Learn mailing list
Learn-at-nylxs.com
http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/learn

--===============1197051263==--

  1. 2016-01-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] [MITxonedX-at-mit.edu: Learn computer science and get college
  2. 2016-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Learn] ANTLR Packages
  3. 2016-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Learn] ANTLR Packages
  4. 2016-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Learn] ANTLR Packages
  5. 2016-01-22 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Re: [Learn] CS664
  6. 2016-01-22 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Re: [Learn] CS664
  7. 2016-01-22 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Re: [Learn] CS664
  8. 2016-01-22 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Re: [Learn] CS664
  9. 2016-01-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] [christopher.league-at-liu.edu: CS664: Assignment 1 available]
  10. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: ANTLR Packages
  11. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  12. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  13. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  14. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  15. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  16. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  17. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  18. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  19. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  20. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  21. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  22. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  23. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: basics ABC
  24. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: build files
  25. 2016-01-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] Fwd: Re: CS664: Assignment 1 available
  26. 2016-01-27 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Learn] Argent : CSA Club Meeting
  27. 2016-01-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Learn] [info-at-israeltechallenge.com: Hello from Tech Challenge

NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!