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DATE 2016-01-22
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Learn] ANTLR Packages
From learn-bounces-at-nylxs.com Fri Jan 22 19:55:15 2016
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On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 07:30:52PM -0600, Dave Thomas wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm the person who made the decision to require JavaScript on the site.

that is not the issue

> We
> don't track you, apart from the session cookie. We use analytics to help us
> optimize the site. We do not have any advertising links.

and THAT is not a fact. You have double click and google analystics
is reported to google.

>
> I'm sorry that JavaScript makes you nervous,

No - it is the tracking that is an assult on my individualality and rights
as a human.

It is not my nerves. I don't want to be tracked.


> but our site is the only way
> we can offer the package of the two. Even if we sold it to you, you'd have
> to use our site to download.

So either I'll live without it or I'll find and an alternate means

YOU can either put it on an ftp site or just email it to me.
anomymously.



>
> Sorry
>
> Dave Thomas
> On Jan 21, 2016 4:33 PM, "Ruben Safir" wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 09:56:37AM -0500, PragProg Support wrote:
> > > Ruben,
> > >
> > > Thanks for writing with your concerns, but that's not true. We do
> > > not use any aggressive ad trackers at all. We do use Google
> > > Analytics to help refine our site design and provide a better
> > > experience, but we absolutely do not "track it all and track it
> > > high" as you suggest.
> > >
> >
> > Google analystics is VERY invassive but you have scripts running from
> > double click? Not theoretically, but as identified and disabled by
> > noscript
> >
> >
> > > Our new site redesign does require JavaScript, but that's for a
> > > better, more responsive UI/UX experience across multiple devices and
> > > platforms, as is required in this modern age.
> > >
> >
> > HTML works. IT DOES.
> >
> > The website as it is constructed however, does not. Should I send screne
> > shots?
> >
> > Anyway, can I but the books?
> >
> >
> > > Kind Regards,
> > >
> > > Pat the Gerbil
> > > support-at-pragprog.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > >I wanted both Antlr books but your shopping cart won't work without
> > > >allowing for doubleclick and few other nasty trackers, so it is
> > > >essentially broken with some passive-aggressive looping message about
> > > >how I can turn on javascript, if that is something I would like to do,
> > > >which is OBVIOUSLY something I do not want to do, hence the noscript
> > > >pluggin et al. Even with CSS turned off, the sight still is
> > > >fundamentally broken.
> > > >
> > > >You would think we never did shopping carts before the "track it all and
> > > >track it high" culture that seems to pass for common currency today.
> > > >
> > > >Can you sell me these 2 books in a normal fashion, both the ebook and
> > > >the paperbook?
> > > >
> > > >Ruben
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >ref: https://pragprog.com/book/tpdsl/language-implementation-patterns
> > > >http://www.antlr.org/
> > > >
> >
> > --
> > So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
> > that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
> > proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
> > http://www.mrbrklyn.com
> >
> > DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
> > http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> > http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
> > http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
> > http://www.brooklyn-living.com
> >
> > Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
> > but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
> >
> >

--
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com

DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive
http://www.coinhangout.com - coins!
http://www.brooklyn-living.com

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
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