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Look up apulse though. On 07/04/2021 11:23 PM, charliebrownau wrote: > Pipewire can work without Pulse > > Why dont we work together to build a list > of apps that need > or dont need pulse > > Most applications that work without Pulse > and work with alsa works fine with pipewire > without pipewire Pulse > > > 1. LibreWolf - browser http - Alsa + pipewire without pulse > 2. Langrage - Browwser gemini -Alsa + pipewire without pulse > 3. Smplayer - Alsa + pipewire without pulse > 4. mpg13 - Alsa + pipewire without pulse > 5. Volomeico - Alsa + pipewire without pulse > 6. Mumble - Alsa + pipewire without pulse > 7. Simplescreenrecorder - Alsa + pipewire without pulse > > --------------------------- > No ALSA support: > * Firefox removed Alsa - Pulse only > > -------------------------------------- > Partical ALSA or semi removed > * OBS > > ----------------------------- > > > > > Regards > Charliebrownau > charliebrownau-at-protonmail.com > > > Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > > On Monday, July 5th, 2021 at 2:56 AM, wrote: > >> Send artix-general mailing list submissions to >> >> artix-general-at-artixlinux.org >> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> >> https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general >> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >> >> artix-general-request-at-artixlinux.org >> >> You can reach the person managing the list at >> >> artix-general-owner-at-artixlinux.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> >> than "Re: Contents of artix-general digest..." >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Re: [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume control) (Javier) >> 2. Re: [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume control) (Chris Cromer) >> >> >> Message: 1 >> >> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 20:54:19 -0600 >> >> From: Javier je-vv-at-e.email >> >> To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org >> >> Subject: Re: [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume >> >> control) >> >> Message-ID: 7fab5d3e-908a-24e6-ee52-4299cfc97b0e-at-e.email >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >> >> On 7/4/21 8:48 PM, Chris Cromer wrote: >> >>> What you want is impossible. The programmers who wrote those software wrote in pulse audio code/support only. If you remove pipewire-pulse you will not have any audio from those software. >>> >>> Until the people who write those software modify their software and add in pipewire support code, you can't get rid of pipewire-pulse. >>> >>> Also you are not using pipewire on top of pulse by having pipewire-pulse installed. When you install pipewire-pulse it removes pulse audio from your system. You can't have pulse audio and pipewire-pulse installed at the same time. pipewire-pulse is just a compatibility layer, all it does is fool software into thinking pulse audio is installed and redirect everything to pipewire and makes the magic work. >> I see, thanks a lot for clarifying ! >> >> I'll give it a try then. I guess if using pipewire-pulse, then there's no sense on having pipewire-alsa around, since most applications now a day use pulse as their audio backend... >> >> Thanks again ! >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Javier >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> >> Name: OpenPGP_signature >> >> Type: application/pgp-signature >> >> Size: 228 bytes >> >> Desc: OpenPGP digital signature >> >> URL: https://lists.artixlinux.org/archives/artix-general/attachments/20210704/0d27f0ce/attachment-0001.sig >> >> Message: 2 >> >> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 22:56:27 -0400 >> >> From: Chris Cromer cromer-at-artixlinux.org >> >> To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org >> >> Subject: Re: [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume >> >> control) >> >> Message-ID: 38ec1226-ccfe-124f-656c-af11852cc05b-at-artixlinux.org >> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" >> >> Personally I think it does no harm leaving pipewire-alsa on there. And >> >> who knows, you might just run into some software somewhere that does >> >> actually use alsa without you even realizing it. >> >> On 7/4/21 10:54 PM, Javier wrote: >> >>> On 7/4/21 8:48 PM, Chris Cromer wrote: >>> >>>> What you want is impossible. The programmers who wrote those software >>>> >>>> wrote in pulse audio code/support only. If you remove pipewire-pulse >>>> >>>> you will not have any audio from those software. >>>> >>>> Until the people who write those software modify their software and >>>> >>>> add in pipewire support code, you can't get rid of pipewire-pulse. >>>> >>>> Also you are not using pipewire on top of pulse by having >>>> >>>> pipewire-pulse installed. When you install pipewire-pulse it removes >>>> >>>> pulse audio from your system. You can't have pulse audio and >>>> >>>> pipewire-pulse installed at the same time. pipewire-pulse is just a >>>> >>>> compatibility layer, all it does is fool software into thinking pulse >>>> >>>> audio is installed and redirect everything to pipewire and makes the >>>> >>>> magic work. >>> I see, thanks a lot for clarifying ! >>> >>> I'll give it a try then.? I guess if using pipewire-pulse, then there's >>> >>> no sense on having pipewire-alsa around, since most applications now a >>> >>> day use pulse as their audio backend... >>> >>> Thanks again ! >> Chris Cromer >> >> Artix Developer >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> >> Name: OpenPGP_0xFA91071797BEEEC2.asc >> >> Type: application/pgp-keys >> >> Size: 58275 bytes >> >> Desc: OpenPGP public key >> >> URL: https://lists.artixlinux.org/archives/artix-general/attachments/20210704/0790397c/attachment.bin >> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> >> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >> >> Name: OpenPGP_signature >> >> Type: application/pgp-signature >> >> Size: 840 bytes >> >> Desc: OpenPGP digital signature >> >> URL: https://lists.artixlinux.org/archives/artix-general/attachments/20210704/0790397c/attachment.sig >> >> Subject: Digest Footer >> >> artix-general mailing list >> >> artix-general-at-artixlinux.org >> >> https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general >> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> End of artix-general Digest, Vol 28, Issue 3 -- artix-general mailing list artix-general-at-artixlinux.org https://lists.artixlinux.org/listinfo/artix-general _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout 2021-07-01 From: "Dana Morgenstein, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Read and share articles from the Free Software 2021-07-01 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software Supporter Issue 159, July 2021 2021-07-02 Osvaldo Alonso <dndsvx-at-outlook.es> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] 2021-07-02 Edgar_ <edgar-at-hagenbichler.at> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] 2021-07-02 Osvaldo Alonso <dndsvx-at-outlook.es> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] 2021-07-02 Edgar_ <edgar-at-hagenbichler.at> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] 2021-07-04 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Pipewire without Pulse 2021-07-04 zap <zapper-at-dismail.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Pipewire without Pulse 2021-07-04 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse 2021-07-04 Ethan Masse <guitaristocrat-at-aol.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] elogind-openrc no longer provides 2021-07-04 Chris Cromer <cromer-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse 2021-07-04 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse 2021-07-04 Chris Cromer <cromer-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse 2021-07-04 Javier <je-vv-at-e.email> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse 2021-07-04 Chris Cromer <cromer-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] elogind-openrc no longer 2021-07-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Linux Tablets 2021-07-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Bikes 2021-07-05 Tajwali Khan <tajwali-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] MyGNUHealth 1.0 ready to download 2021-07-06 Axel Braun <Axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Help for upgrade GnuHealth in 2021-07-06 Axel Braun <Axel.braun-at-gmx.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] MyGNUHealth 1.0 ready to download 2021-07-05 G?bor Szab? <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #519 - Crystal conference and course 2021-07-05 Michael Stevens <michael.stevens-at-dianomi.com.INVALID> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] New to Embperl. 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