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DATE 2021-07-04
FROM zap
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Pipewire without Pulse
I don't usually reply to this list given I don't use artix, but apulse
allows you to use alsa with firefox.  Just a heads up for you all.

Look up apulse though.


On 07/04/2021 11:23 PM, charliebrownau wrote:
> Pipewire can work without Pulse
>
> Why dont we work together to build a list
> of apps that need
> or dont need pulse
>
> Most applications that work without Pulse
> and work with alsa works fine with pipewire
> without pipewire Pulse
>
>
> 1. LibreWolf - browser http - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
> 2. Langrage - Browwser gemini -Alsa + pipewire without pulse
> 3. Smplayer - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
> 4. mpg13 - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
> 5. Volomeico - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
> 6. Mumble - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
> 7. Simplescreenrecorder - Alsa + pipewire without pulse
>
> ---------------------------
> No ALSA support:
> * Firefox removed Alsa - Pulse only
>
> --------------------------------------
> Partical ALSA or semi removed
> * OBS
>
> -----------------------------
>
>
>
>
> Regards
> Charliebrownau
> charliebrownau-at-protonmail.com
>
>
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> On Monday, July 5th, 2021 at 2:56 AM, wrote:
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>> 1. Re: [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume control) (Javier)
>> 2. Re: [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume control) (Chris Cromer)
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>> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 20:54:19 -0600
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>> From: Javier je-vv-at-e.email
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>> To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org
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>> Subject: Re: [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume
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>> control)
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>> On 7/4/21 8:48 PM, Chris Cromer wrote:
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>>> What you want is impossible. The programmers who wrote those software wrote in pulse audio code/support only. If you remove pipewire-pulse you will not have any audio from those software.
>>>
>>> Until the people who write those software modify their software and add in pipewire support code, you can't get rid of pipewire-pulse.
>>>
>>> Also you are not using pipewire on top of pulse by having pipewire-pulse installed. When you install pipewire-pulse it removes pulse audio from your system. You can't have pulse audio and pipewire-pulse installed at the same time. pipewire-pulse is just a compatibility layer, all it does is fool software into thinking pulse audio is installed and redirect everything to pipewire and makes the magic work.
>> I see, thanks a lot for clarifying !
>>
>> I'll give it a try then. I guess if using pipewire-pulse, then there's no sense on having pipewire-alsa around, since most applications now a day use pulse as their audio backend...
>>
>> Thanks again !
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>> Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2021 22:56:27 -0400
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>> From: Chris Cromer cromer-at-artixlinux.org
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>> To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org
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>> Subject: Re: [artix-general] [ot] pipewire without pulse (volume
>>
>> control)
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>> Personally I think it does no harm leaving pipewire-alsa on there. And
>>
>> who knows, you might just run into some software somewhere that does
>>
>> actually use alsa without you even realizing it.
>>
>> On 7/4/21 10:54 PM, Javier wrote:
>>
>>> On 7/4/21 8:48 PM, Chris Cromer wrote:
>>>
>>>> What you want is impossible. The programmers who wrote those software
>>>>
>>>> wrote in pulse audio code/support only. If you remove pipewire-pulse
>>>>
>>>> you will not have any audio from those software.
>>>>
>>>> Until the people who write those software modify their software and
>>>>
>>>> add in pipewire support code, you can't get rid of pipewire-pulse.
>>>>
>>>> Also you are not using pipewire on top of pulse by having
>>>>
>>>> pipewire-pulse installed. When you install pipewire-pulse it removes
>>>>
>>>> pulse audio from your system. You can't have pulse audio and
>>>>
>>>> pipewire-pulse installed at the same time. pipewire-pulse is just a
>>>>
>>>> compatibility layer, all it does is fool software into thinking pulse
>>>>
>>>> audio is installed and redirect everything to pipewire and makes the
>>>>
>>>> magic work.
>>> I see, thanks a lot for clarifying !
>>>
>>> I'll give it a try then.? I guess if using pipewire-pulse, then there's
>>>
>>> no sense on having pipewire-alsa around, since most applications now a
>>>
>>> day use pulse as their audio backend...
>>>
>>> Thanks again !
>> Chris Cromer
>>
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