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MESSAGE
DATE 2005-04-05
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth

> If this were a Perl/MySQL app, it
> would almost certainly be just as much a piece of shit as the Windows
> version is, and you'd have just as much _no access to the code_ to fix
> it or have it fixed.
>

We've been shadowed by this always.

> As we're now getting to be quite successful in getting companies off the
> Microsoft crack, we need to refocus our efforts somewhat. The VAR/ISV
> incompetents are coming to Linux, and they're bringing their garbage
> apps and stupidity with them.

This is not something to fear. This is something to encourage.

> There's nothing about Linux that forces
> you to be a competent designer or developer. (as much of the code
> available at SourceForge proves)

Not quite true, but the overwhelming deciding factor is that with GNU
systems, is that access to the system leads people naturally on a path
of discovery. And even people as stupid as some of our associates can
learn enough competency, even through the school of hard knocks, even
enough knowledge to give, say a lecture on UML, or beginners workshops!
Your suggesting a path to Unix bigotry. I'm not interested in that.
I'd rather use bad software.

But believe, on the brain washing and community support of a hugely
stupid monopoly can end up with the development of software as stupid at
the software I'm using now. This is not ever even possibly the result
of a Free Software community development. This product suffers from a
MS mentality. People who bring that kind of crap to the Free Software
side of the ledger are going to quickly learn the mores, norms and
values of Free Software. Free Software BREEDS collaboration,
competition and personnel growth. Your making THE fundamental mistake.
It's not about the technology, it is about the PEOPLE.


> Windows users have proved they'll
> accept and pay good money for what amounts to a loaded diaper. If we
> have any hope of educating the general public to demand better, we'd
> better start drilling that into people now, while we have reasonably
> not-shitty systems dominating our userbase to point at as examples.
> Otherwise at some point, you'll have exactly what exists in the Windows
> world today, the systems run by the relatively few of us who know what
> we're doing will be reasonably reliable, virus and crappy-app free, and
> everyone else will be running systems that crash and burn constantly so
> much that you stop noticing it.


Larry August made this argument in "Freedom OS". Free $hit is still
$hit. Larry was wrong. Free $hit is still Free.

> Don't bother at that point trying to
> explain to a user that Linux is a very good kernel and it's their apps
> that suck. Disgusted users tar their whole system with the same brush.
>
> - Ron
> ____________________________
> NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene
> Fair Use -
> because it's either fair use or useless....
> NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
>

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  1. 2005-04-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] One of the biggest problem with the media.
  2. 2005-04-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting This Thursday Night
  3. 2005-04-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting Of Fundraising committee. 4/13/
  4. 2005-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  5. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  6. 2005-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fundraising Meeting
  7. 2005-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [IP] Supporters of NSF should step up]
  8. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  9. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  10. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [IP] Supporters of NSF should step up]
  11. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  12. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  13. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  14. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  15. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  16. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [IP] IBM VC calls for 'open' hardware]
  17. 2005-04-10 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  18. 2005-04-10 Michael E George <meg7-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: Committee-Fundraising Meeting.
  19. 2005-04-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Committee-Fundraising Meeting.
  20. 2005-04-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  21. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  22. 2005-04-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  23. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  24. 2005-04-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  25. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  26. 2005-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  27. 2005-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Treo
  28. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  29. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  30. 2005-04-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] You have a friend in Windows
  31. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS New Free Software stratergy
  32. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft
  33. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] You have a friend in Windows
  34. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] One down - a million more to go
  35. 2005-04-08 From: "Ruben I Safir - NYLXS President" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fw: Join the J2J Network for a Pre-Passover Networking Lunch and Learn - April 14th
  36. 2005-04-08 From: "Ruben I Safir - NYLXS President" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Treo
  37. 2005-04-08 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: ****SPAM(157.8)**** Re: [hangout] Treo
  38. 2005-04-08 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: ****SPAM(163.9)**** [hangout] Fw: [Politics] Man arrested, cuffed after using $2 bills
  39. 2005-04-08 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: ****SPAM(170.4)**** Re: [hangout] Treo
  40. 2005-04-08 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  41. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [todv-at-google.com: RE: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings)]
  42. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: your mail
  43. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [david-at-mysql.com: MySQL Users Conference in 10 Days now!]
  44. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  45. 2005-04-07 Michael E George <meg7-at-nyu.edu> Subject: ****SPAM(249.0)**** [hangout] Re: your mail
  46. 2005-04-07 Akbar Pasha <akbarpasha-at-gmail.com> Re: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  47. 2005-04-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  48. 2005-04-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  49. 2005-04-07 Akbar Pasha <akbarpasha-at-gmail.com> Re: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  50. 2005-04-07 From: "Ruben I Safir - NYLXS President" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  51. 2005-04-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  52. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  53. 2005-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  54. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  55. 2005-04-06 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  56. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Treo
  57. 2005-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  58. 2005-04-06 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: ****SPAM(212.9)**** [hangout] Treo
  59. 2005-04-06 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  60. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  61. 2005-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  62. 2005-04-06 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  63. 2005-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  64. 2005-04-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  65. 2005-04-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  66. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  67. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  68. 2005-04-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  69. 2005-04-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Bottom Line on Suse 9.3
  70. 2005-04-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  71. 2005-04-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  72. 2005-04-06 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  73. 2005-04-06 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [hangout] XP Corporate support
  74. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] XP Corporate support
  75. 2005-04-05 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: your mail
  76. 2005-04-05 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fundraising meeting.
  77. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  78. 2005-04-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  79. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Fundraising Meet Date.
  80. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: your mail
  81. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  82. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [rms-at-gnu.org: [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Upcoming hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council
  83. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [rms-at-gnu.org: [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Upcoming hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council
  84. 2005-04-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  85. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  86. 2005-04-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  87. 2005-04-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  88. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  89. 2005-04-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  90. 2005-04-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  91. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  92. 2005-04-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  93. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Fundraising meeting.
  94. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  95. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Re: Fundraising meeting.
  96. 2005-04-04 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Fundraising committee.
  97. 2005-04-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Adelstein: Linux use drives innovation
  98. 2005-04-04 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Fundraising meeting.
  99. 2005-04-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Leadership Program Announcement
  100. 2005-04-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] VoIP/ Web Browser
  101. 2005-04-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  102. 2005-04-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Leadership Program Announcement
  103. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  104. 2005-04-03 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  105. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Oops
  106. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net>
  107. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  108. 2005-04-02 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [hangout] One of the biggest problem with the media.
  109. 2005-04-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Leadership Training
  110. 2005-04-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  111. 2005-04-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Hotmail Accounts
  112. 2005-04-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hotmail Accounts
  113. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> fsfsfsd fsdfsdf
  114. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> NYLXS Site crashed because of weird electrical problem in Brooklyn
  115. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  116. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Site crashed because of weird electrical problem in Brooklyn
  117. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] fixed?
  118. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Upcoming hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council (as of 4.26.05).
  119. 2005-04-26 hens <monospace-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] fixed?
  120. 2005-04-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  121. 2005-04-27 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  122. 2005-04-27 From: "J.E. Cripps" <cycmn-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  123. 2005-04-27 John Parres <johnparres-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  124. 2005-04-27 Cory Doctorow <doctorow-at-craphound.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  125. 2005-04-27 From: "TechVenue Services " <Services-at-TechVenue.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT]
  126. 2005-04-27 From: "R.A. Hettinga" <rah-at-shipwright.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  127. 2005-04-27 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-earthlink.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  128. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  129. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  130. 2005-04-27 Robert Harrison <RobertH-at-linx.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  131. 2005-04-27 From: "Edward J. Weinberg" <edw-at-acss.org> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] remove
  132. 2005-04-27 From: "Edward J. Weinberg" <edw-at-acss.org> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] remove
  133. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  134. 2005-04-27 alex-at-pilosoft.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  135. 2005-04-27 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-earthlink.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  136. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  137. 2005-04-27 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-earthlink.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  138. 2005-04-27 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-earthlink.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  139. 2005-04-27 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  140. 2005-04-27 Stan Davenport <stan-at-Etrtechcenter.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  141. 2005-04-27 Carl Keil <carl-at-snarlnet.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  142. 2005-04-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FW: [hangout] Beer Sayings
  143. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  144. 2005-04-27 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Penguin Day.
  145. 2005-04-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Penguin Day---IS NOT FREE.
  146. 2005-04-28 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fw: Corporate & Channel Computing Expo News
  147. 2005-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  148. 2005-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  149. 2005-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  150. 2005-04-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  151. 2005-04-28 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  152. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  153. 2005-04-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  154. 2005-04-29 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  155. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  156. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  157. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  158. 2005-04-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  159. 2005-04-29 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  160. 2005-04-29 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  161. 2005-04-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  162. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  163. 2005-04-30 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fw: [wwwac] Monday 2 May 2005 NYC Committee on Technology in Government: Telecommunications Infrastructure and Economic Development
  164. 2005-04-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  165. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  166. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net>
  167. 2005-04-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  168. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  169. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net>

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