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| DATE | 2005-04-05 |
| FROM | Ron Guerin
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| SUBJECT | Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
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From owner-hangouts-destenys-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Apr 5 18:51:57 2005 X-UIDL: Fbn"!G~N!!D*g"!T[&"! Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id j35MpvKm022746 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:51:57 -0400 Received: (from mdom-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.12.3/Submit) id j35MpuR8022745 for hangouts-destenys; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: mdom set sender to owner-hangouts-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com using -f Received: from broadway.vnetworx.net (broadway.vnetworx.net [66.250.107.226]) by mrbrklyn.com (8.12.11/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id j35Mpujg022736 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 2005 18:51:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 22600 invoked by uid 89); 5 Apr 2005 22:52:53 -0000 X-AntiVirus: gadoyanvirus 0.3 Received: from unknown (HELO ?64.81.215.108?) (64.81.215.108) by broadway.vnetworx.net with SMTP for ; 5 Apr 2005 22:52:53 -0000 Message-ID: <425316C3.7080101-at-vnetworx.net> Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2005 18:52:51 -0400 From: Ron Guerin User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.6 (Windows/20040502) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS CC: "Inker, Evan" , hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth References: <386AEEE1B7BAC34CB4DDF394C2349278D6ED3A-at-w2cs-nyk02.gam.com> <4252E111.3000605-at-vnetworx.net> <20050405213215.M58937-at-mrbrklyn.com> In-Reply-To: <20050405213215.M58937-at-mrbrklyn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hangouts-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Ron Guerin List: New Yorker GNU Linux Scene Admin: To unsubscribe send unsubscribe name-at-domian.com in the body to hangout-request-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.0 (2004-09-13) on www2.mrbrklyn.com X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.2 required=4.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.0.0 X-Spam-Level: X-Keywords: X-UID: 39979 Status: RO Content-Length: 1772 Lines: 34
Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS wrote: > Here is a typical 30 minutes of my day
One thing that's important to remember (I guess) is that the party most responsible for this is CarePoint. If this were a Perl/MySQL app, it would almost certainly be just as much a piece of shit as the Windows version is, and you'd have just as much _no access to the code_ to fix it or have it fixed.
As we're now getting to be quite successful in getting companies off the Microsoft crack, we need to refocus our efforts somewhat. The VAR/ISV incompetents are coming to Linux, and they're bringing their garbage apps and stupidity with them. There's nothing about Linux that forces you to be a competent designer or developer. (as much of the code available at SourceForge proves) Windows users have proved they'll accept and pay good money for what amounts to a loaded diaper. If we have any hope of educating the general public to demand better, we'd better start drilling that into people now, while we have reasonably not-shitty systems dominating our userbase to point at as examples. Otherwise at some point, you'll have exactly what exists in the Windows world today, the systems run by the relatively few of us who know what we're doing will be reasonably reliable, virus and crappy-app free, and everyone else will be running systems that crash and burn constantly so much that you stop noticing it. Don't bother at that point trying to explain to a user that Linux is a very good kernel and it's their apps that suck. Disgusted users tar their whole system with the same brush.
- Ron ____________________________ NYLXS: New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... NYLXS is a trademark of NYLXS, Inc
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