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DATE 2005-04-05
FROM Ron Guerin
SUBJECT Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
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Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS wrote:
> Here is a typical 30 minutes of my day

One thing that's important to remember (I guess) is that the party most
responsible for this is CarePoint. If this were a Perl/MySQL app, it
would almost certainly be just as much a piece of shit as the Windows
version is, and you'd have just as much _no access to the code_ to fix
it or have it fixed.

As we're now getting to be quite successful in getting companies off the
Microsoft crack, we need to refocus our efforts somewhat. The VAR/ISV
incompetents are coming to Linux, and they're bringing their garbage
apps and stupidity with them. There's nothing about Linux that forces
you to be a competent designer or developer. (as much of the code
available at SourceForge proves) Windows users have proved they'll
accept and pay good money for what amounts to a loaded diaper. If we
have any hope of educating the general public to demand better, we'd
better start drilling that into people now, while we have reasonably
not-shitty systems dominating our userbase to point at as examples.
Otherwise at some point, you'll have exactly what exists in the Windows
world today, the systems run by the relatively few of us who know what
we're doing will be reasonably reliable, virus and crappy-app free, and
everyone else will be running systems that crash and burn constantly so
much that you stop noticing it. Don't bother at that point trying to
explain to a user that Linux is a very good kernel and it's their apps
that suck. Disgusted users tar their whole system with the same brush.

- Ron
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  1. 2005-04-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] Hotmail Accounts
  2. 2005-04-01 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] One of the biggest problem with the media.
  3. 2005-04-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  4. 2005-04-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Hotmail Accounts
  5. 2005-04-01 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Leadership Training
  6. 2005-04-02 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [hangout] One of the biggest problem with the media.
  7. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net>
  8. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net>
  9. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net>
  10. 2005-04-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  11. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  12. 2005-04-03 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  13. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [hangout] Fundraising committee
  14. 2005-04-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Leadership Program Announcement
  15. 2005-04-03 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Oops
  16. 2005-04-03 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] VoIP/ Web Browser
  17. 2005-04-04 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Leadership Program Announcement
  18. 2005-04-04 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Adelstein: Linux use drives innovation
  19. 2005-04-04 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Fundraising committee.
  20. 2005-04-04 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Fundraising meeting.
  21. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  22. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  23. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  24. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  25. 2005-04-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  26. 2005-04-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  27. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  28. 2005-04-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  29. 2005-04-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  30. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  31. 2005-04-05 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  32. 2005-04-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  33. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  34. 2005-04-05 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  35. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: Fundraising meeting.
  36. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [rms-at-gnu.org: [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Upcoming hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council
  37. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Fundraising Meet Date.
  38. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  39. 2005-04-05 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fundraising meeting.
  40. 2005-04-05 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Re: Fundraising meeting.
  41. 2005-04-05 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: your mail
  42. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: your mail
  43. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] XP Corporate support
  44. 2005-04-05 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [rms-at-gnu.org: [bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Upcoming hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council
  45. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> RE: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  46. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  47. 2005-04-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  48. 2005-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  49. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  50. 2005-04-06 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  51. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  52. 2005-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  53. 2005-04-06 From: "Ruben I Safir - Secretary NYLXS" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  54. 2005-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] mubling under my breadth
  55. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  56. 2005-04-06 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  57. 2005-04-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  58. 2005-04-06 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  59. 2005-04-06 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Treo
  60. 2005-04-06 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  61. 2005-04-06 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [hangout] XP Corporate support
  62. 2005-04-06 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: ****SPAM(212.9)**** [hangout] Treo
  63. 2005-04-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] Bottom Line on Suse 9.3
  64. 2005-04-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  65. 2005-04-06 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] First Look at SUSE LINUX 9.3 Professional
  66. 2005-04-06 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Pet Peeves.
  67. 2005-04-07 Akbar Pasha <akbarpasha-at-gmail.com> Re: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  68. 2005-04-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  69. 2005-04-07 Akbar Pasha <akbarpasha-at-gmail.com> Re: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  70. 2005-04-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  71. 2005-04-07 Michael E George <meg7-at-nyu.edu> Subject: ****SPAM(249.0)**** [hangout] Re: your mail
  72. 2005-04-07 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  73. 2005-04-07 From: "Ruben I Safir - NYLXS President" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  74. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] PASHA - Yowza
  75. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Re: your mail
  76. 2005-04-08 From: "Ruben I Safir - NYLXS President" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Treo
  77. 2005-04-08 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  78. 2005-04-08 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: ****SPAM(157.8)**** Re: [hangout] Treo
  79. 2005-04-08 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: ****SPAM(163.9)**** [hangout] Fw: [Politics] Man arrested, cuffed after using $2 bills
  80. 2005-04-08 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: ****SPAM(170.4)**** Re: [hangout] Treo
  81. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DRM is Theft
  82. 2005-04-08 From: "Ruben I Safir - NYLXS President" <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fw: Join the J2J Network for a Pre-Passover Networking Lunch and Learn - April 14th
  83. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] MS New Free Software stratergy
  84. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] One down - a million more to go
  85. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] You have a friend in Windows
  86. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [david-at-mysql.com: MySQL Users Conference in 10 Days now!]
  87. 2005-04-08 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [todv-at-google.com: RE: (Google) Sr. Linux Cluster System Admin. & Sr. Software Engineer/Unix System & Network Administrator (2 Job Openings)]
  88. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  89. 2005-04-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  90. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  91. 2005-04-09 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  92. 2005-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  93. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  94. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  95. 2005-04-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Treo
  96. 2005-04-09 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  97. 2005-04-09 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] You have a friend in Windows
  98. 2005-04-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  99. 2005-04-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  100. 2005-04-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att)
  101. 2005-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  102. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  103. 2005-04-10 From: "P.Robert Marino" <rob-at-concord-hs.org> Re: [hangout] SuSE and Emperor Linux
  104. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  105. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  106. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  107. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  108. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  109. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  110. 2005-04-10 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Treo
  111. 2005-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] [Fwd: [IP] Supporters of NSF should step up]
  112. 2005-04-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [hangout] Committee-Fundraising Meeting.
  113. 2005-04-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fundraising Meeting
  114. 2005-04-10 Michael E George <meg7-at-nyu.edu> Subject: [hangout] Re: Committee-Fundraising Meeting.
  115. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [IP] IBM VC calls for 'open' hardware]
  116. 2005-04-10 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: [IP] Supporters of NSF should step up]
  117. 2005-04-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Meeting Of Fundraising committee. 4/13/
  118. 2005-04-11 Ruben Safir Secretary NYLXS <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting This Thursday Night
  119. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> fsfsfsd fsdfsdf
  120. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> NYLXS Site crashed because of weird electrical problem in Brooklyn
  121. 2005-04-26 hens <monospace-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] fixed?
  122. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] fixed?
  123. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  124. 2005-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Site crashed because of weird electrical problem in Brooklyn
  125. 2005-04-27 From: "TechVenue Services " <Services-at-TechVenue.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT]
  126. 2005-04-27 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  127. 2005-04-27 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  128. 2005-04-27 From: "J.E. Cripps" <cycmn-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  129. 2005-04-27 John Parres <johnparres-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  130. 2005-04-27 Cory Doctorow <doctorow-at-craphound.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  131. 2005-04-27 From: "R.A. Hettinga" <rah-at-shipwright.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  132. 2005-04-27 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-earthlink.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  133. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  134. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  135. 2005-04-27 Robert Harrison <RobertH-at-linx.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  136. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  137. 2005-04-27 alex-at-pilosoft.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  138. 2005-04-27 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-earthlink.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  139. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  140. 2005-04-27 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-earthlink.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  141. 2005-04-27 Jeanne Edna Thelwell <thelwell-at-earthlink.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  142. 2005-04-27 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  143. 2005-04-27 Stan Davenport <stan-at-Etrtechcenter.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  144. 2005-04-27 Carl Keil <carl-at-snarlnet.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  145. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  146. 2005-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] bruce.lai-at-council.nyc.ny.us: Upcoming hearings by the Committee on Technology in Government of the New York City Council (as of 4.26.05).
  147. 2005-04-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FW: [hangout] Beer Sayings
  148. 2005-04-27 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Penguin Day.
  149. 2005-04-27 From: "Edward J. Weinberg" <edw-at-acss.org> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] remove
  150. 2005-04-27 From: "Edward J. Weinberg" <edw-at-acss.org> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] remove
  151. 2005-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  152. 2005-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  153. 2005-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  154. 2005-04-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  155. 2005-04-28 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Passover Party
  156. 2005-04-28 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Penguin Day---IS NOT FREE.
  157. 2005-04-28 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fw: Corporate & Channel Computing Expo News
  158. 2005-04-29 From: "Steve Milo" <slavik914-at-rennlist.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  159. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  160. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  161. 2005-04-29 swd <sderrick-at-optonline.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  162. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  163. 2005-04-29 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  164. 2005-04-29 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  165. 2005-04-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  166. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  167. 2005-04-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Report
  168. 2005-04-29 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Ripoff
  169. 2005-04-30 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fw: [wwwac] Monday 2 May 2005 NYC Committee on Technology in Government: Telecommunications Infrastructure and Economic Development

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