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MESSAGE
DATE 2007-07-08
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: wikepedia
On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 01:21:14PM -0400, Ruth Marcus wrote:
>
> I will edit it out.


Actually, I was thinking about this today when we were at MOMA, and I think I might
just contact John who is the guy who I helped migrate wikipedia to its current MYSQL
backend, and ask him to remove the entry. This has left a bad taste in my mouth and
the entry has crossed into a private vanity entry and a PR tool, both of which are
violations of Wikipedia policy. I was worried about that happening before when
folks started piling on to the family section and adding names. Now I'm feeling
quite certain about it.

For one thing, generally it is very frowned upon for living subjects to edit entries
about themselves. The article itself is not supposed to be a reflection of the
subjects aspirations or desires. The real tipping point in my thinking about this
happened when you complained about the article being "unprofessional". I'm not
certain what that means but I'm certain that a figure, living or deceased which
is historically important enough to have an entry in the Wikpedia needs to have
a good biographical section. Certainly you didn't spring to life in 1941 and
more than Lincoln did at the Stephan Douglas debate,

I'm going to think about this more, but that's how I'm leaning at the moment.

I have to get back to teaching my Perl Class. Talk to you later. And BTW,
I'm very happy to hear that you've fought off the cancer sucessfuly and that
we all love you here in Brooklyn. You are in our prayers.

Sincerely
Ruben

>
>
>
>
> On Sun, 8 Jul 2007, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> >On Sun, Jul 08, 2007 at 04:18:58AM -0400, Ruth Marcus wrote:
> >>
> >>PLEASE STOP INSERTING A FAMILY SECTION IN MY WIKIPEDIA ENTRY. iT IS
> >>UNPROFESSIONAL, INAPPROPRIATE AS WELL AS FULL OF MISTAKES AND GARBLED.I
> >>HAVE ASKED WIKIPEDIA TO DELETE IT AGAIN
> >>
> >>RUTH B MARCUS
> >>
> >
> >I didn't write it, I just reasseted. I see no errors it in however, and
> >its
> >not unprofessional and it would belong.
> >
> >Ruben
> >
> >
> >--
> >http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
> >http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
> >
> >So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like
> >Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI
> >Safir 1998
> >
> >http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI
> >Safir 2002
> >
> >"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"
> >
> >"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to
> >our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own
> >society."
> >
> >"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be
> >damned.<
> >You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have
> >been attacted at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess
> >you missed that one."
> >
> >© Copyright for the Digital Millennium
> >
>
> mp
>
> m


--
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Interesting Stuff
http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software

So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998

http://fairuse.nylxs.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

"Yeah - I write Free Software...so SUE ME"

"The tremendous problem we face is that we are becoming sharecroppers to our own cultural heritage -- we need the ability to participate in our own society."

"> I'm an engineer. I choose the best tool for the job, politics be damned.<
You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attacted at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."

© Copyright for the Digital Millennium

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  13. 2007-07-11 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow
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