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MESSAGE
DATE 2007-07-25
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 09:23:56PM -0400, email wrote:
> I hear you, defiantly, but living on 1st ave is 10 times worse than
> living on the edge of the Gowanas Expressway which I did for 18 years.

First, there are 2 issue. The first issue is that anything which
seperates Brooklyn from Manhattan is a violation of the City's
sovernity, and I will not brouch it. The 5 boroughs are 1 city, and
we have the right to free travel anywhere in our city, without any other
considerations.

Secondly, I'm at LICH, right off the Gwonas Expressway, just before it
heads under the Promanade. The trafic nighmare for New York is from the
Toga Line that comes in over the Verazzano Bridge, from NJ, from the BQE
and LIE from Nassua and Suffolk county. I've been subsidizing those
pin heads access to NY via car for decades. Just shut off non-residential
driving PERIOD, and the problem stops.

No more 20 block traffic jams to the Lincoln Tunnel, no more parking lot
past Shea Stadium, no more...

If you don't live here, don't DRIVE HERE.

I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with the fcuking MTA
screwing me every day and a brainless Manhattan Centric Mayor telling me that
I'll be treated like someone from Baldwin.

Ruben

>
> That said there is better than Kings Hwy on a busy day. Traffic sucks
> anywhere in this town, but you're forgetting Manhattan gets it from all
> angles, not only LI which kills Brooklyn. We get NJ too.
>
> And yes, moving is an option, one I'm not quick to do. ut next time we
> grab a beer in the village I'll show you the inch of soot, rubber &
> asphalt dust on my windowsills that settles as quick as I can wipe it.
> Pray for my lungs!
>
> :-)
>
> Ruben Safir wrote:
> >On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:51:27PM -0400, email wrote:
> >>>we had him treat Brooklynites as second class citizens with the
> >>>congestion pricing crap
> >>while I see your point, this program has worked wonders in London which
> >>is where he got it from. And living in Manhattan is a nightmare with
> >>deadly levels of toxic air and noise pollutants, so I have to say I
> >>welcome it HUGELY. I am seriously considering moving out of state due
> >>to the toxicity of Manhattan, not to mention the danger the traffic
> >>brings.
> >>
> >>Now I will admit, Brooklyn will suffer from the parking hordes, which I
> >>hated in the 80's and are exponentially worse now.
> >
> >Brooklyn carries all that traffic ANYWAY. I will not sit here and be a
> >second class
> >citizen in my own city. I have every right you do as a Manhattan
> >resident. If they
> >want to make it a residence driving only city, no problem. But to make me
> >equal
> >to Hackansak is utter bullshit.
> >
> >And frankly Ray, I love you, but if you don't like traffic, moving out of
> >Manhattan is an option.
> >
> >Ruben
> >

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  1. 2007-07-03 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Are we meeting this month?
  2. 2007-07-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Are we meeting this month?
  3. 2007-07-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Are we meeting this month?
  4. 2007-07-03 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Are we meeting this month?
  5. 2007-07-06 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: joining NYLUG
  6. 2007-07-06 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy Fourth
  7. 2007-07-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Piant Penguins
  8. 2007-07-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: wikepedia
  9. 2007-07-09 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Microsoft divorses Apple, remarries to Linux, Part 2 of 2 (was: Fwd: LL: Is Linux Splitting into Two Factions?)
  10. 2007-07-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow
  11. 2007-07-11 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow
  12. 2007-07-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow
  13. 2007-07-11 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow
  14. 2007-07-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting Tomorrow
  15. 2007-07-12 From: "Michael L. Richardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Forts in Brooklyn Heights
  16. 2007-07-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Forts in Brooklyn Heights
  17. 2007-07-12 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Forts in Brooklyn Heights
  18. 2007-07-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting this week
  19. 2007-07-13 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting this week
  20. 2007-07-13 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting this week
  21. 2007-07-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Meeting this week
  22. 2007-07-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Secure VoIP
  23. 2007-07-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  24. 2007-07-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  25. 2007-07-25 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  26. 2007-07-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  27. 2007-07-25 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  28. 2007-07-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  29. 2007-07-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  30. 2007-07-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  31. 2007-07-27 Matthew <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  32. 2007-07-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [marco-at-digifreedom.net: Wanted: Free Software resources for all families and schools]
  33. 2007-07-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  34. 2007-07-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  35. 2007-07-30 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  36. 2007-07-30 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  37. 2007-07-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office
  38. 2007-07-30 Amy Coleman <acoleman-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Unreachable Mayor's Office

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