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MESSAGE
DATE 2006-03-20
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article [was: Multichannel News -AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments]
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>
> No Alex, nor someone like myself becomes a common carrier when some
> purchases service from us. The common part in question for us is the
> copper and fiber plant the public has paid for. Not the access hardware
> nor the service infrastructure ISP's develop that use that public
> infrastructure.
>

Yes - you become the common carrier for your clients because you
are the gateway for them to the internet. I agree that crealy when
the government is handing a company a monopoly on the last mile that
then they have even more responsibility to the public, but everyone
how offers plain vanilla access has responsibilites as common carriers
and are regulared as such.

> There should be nothing stopping you from setting up a small network
> between you and several neighbors and sharing your internet access for
> redundancy or hosting you own mail servers, but since most people would
> rather pay for us to do it, we do. There should be nothing dictating how
> traffic over your home network is handled if you peer with a neighbor,
> just be cause you both also interconnect to the public infrastructure.
> And maybe carry VoIP traffic for one of you neighbors over your link...
>

Your home network is your own business. But if your selling it, your now
a business, just like TW, AOL and Verizon.

> > When you become a Commmon Carrier, the public has every right to
> expect
> > unobstructive, and regulated business practices.
>
> I think Alex is doing a bit of knee jerking about Network Neutrality and
> his network. I think a common carrier who manages infrastructure paid
> for the public(subsidized or otherwise), and have a natural access
> monopoly resulting from that infrastructure management position granted
> by the government, should be subject to network neutrality.
>

That is the sickest part of this conversation. When the dust settles
I'm willing to bet Alex just agrees with everyone else.


> As for prioritization of traffic and access, that has normally been
> specified in peering arrangements or transit arrangements.
> Peering is a completely different subject. but if you're interested..
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peering
>

Different conversation. We're talking about the artificial obstruction
of services through software when connectivity and physical access are
already achived.

Ruben

>
>
> >
> > > So, what exactly do network neutrality bills would do? "Strengthen"
> what?
> > > Devil's in details.
> >
> >
> > The Devil is in the Common Carrier which conducts business in a way to
> prevent
> > fair competition...be their name Verizon, Time-Warner or Pilosoft.
> >
> > Ruben
> >
> >
> >
> > > Given the fact that NYCWireless historically supports
> > > the more extreme positions, I find it important to emphasize that
> not all
> > > "Neutrality" is a good thing.
> > >
> >
> > Actually, it is. And, BTW, your opinion on this issue is not an
> isolated
> > example. You have repeatedly favored giving businesses extra rights
> which
> > limit the use and access to communication systems purchased in good
> faith
> > by indiciduals for their needs. This has been a common thread with
> you from
> > the GPL, to DRM, and now network access. You positions are
> fundementally
> > in opposition to Free Software, and any other community based
> initiative.
>
> Businesses like Pilosoft, Bway.net's, thing.net, panix, etc... sell
> services. We have paid for a developed a service infrastructure, without
> public funding, and yes the government shouldn't be able to tell us how
> to treat traffic. That is up to the arrangements we make with our
> peering partners, or transit providers. Those arrangements are driven by
> a businesses primary objective(making money).
>
> > You also skipped over the admitence on your part of agreeing that
> their is a
> > moral basis for regulating common carriers. If the details of fair
> > implementation of Network Neutralily bothers you, I strongly suggest
> that you
> > give up on your original position, a position which would clearly
> shoot your
> > own business model in the foot, and join the conversation of those
> working
> > to assure fair access to all individuals to "the network" when
> purchasing
> > necessary common carrier access which remains the cornstone of the
> internet
> > and our revolutionary digitally dependent society circa 2006.
>
> I agree about the concept of Net Neutrality. Ruben you may not realize
> it, but you're comparing potatoes to oranges.
>
> Network Neutrality is common amongst peers,It makes business sense for
> tier 1 providers. For companies that have a monopoly over a public
> resource, I feel, it should be required.
>
>
> PS.
> If SBC told me I had to pay for transit across their network, I'd tell
> them to speak to their peering partners and see how they feel about
> it... I'd also bring it up with my upstream provider I'm sure they'd
> have a position about it as well. Which would probably mean bad business
> for SBC. There are many network service providers who would rejoice at
> seeing the ILEC's De-Peered. I'd rejoice at seeing them relegated to
> only layer 1 and layer 2 technologies. So Mr. Henry may not be
> completely wrong about Market Wisdom... :).
>
>
> > Ruben
> >
> > President - NYLXS
> >
>

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  1. 2006-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rx Software
  2. 2006-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Board Meeting
  3. 2006-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fair Use and Broadcast Media
  4. 2006-03-01 From: "mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Board Meeting
  5. 2006-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Next Board Meeting
  6. 2006-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS General Meeting - Tuesday Evening
  7. 2006-03-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: CareerBuilder.com: Assistant DB Support Analyst Needed]
  8. 2006-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nylug-talk] Important Statement to Review for Signing
  9. 2006-03-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU/Linux and hardware
  10. 2006-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The time for Free Software is now
  11. 2006-03-03 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: accounting-at-nylxs.com
  12. 2006-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [Balug-talk] [JOB] Sr. OO Perl Programmer, San Fran, CA |
  13. 2006-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [suse-security-announce] SUSE Security Summary Report
  14. 2006-03-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Feb 9-11?
  15. 2006-03-06 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] video of last week's isoc-ny forum
  16. 2006-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting tonight at K&R
  17. 2006-03-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-talk] [nylug-job] video/imaging company seeks
  18. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Web Developer Position]
  19. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] netstat's limitations
  20. 2006-03-08 Matthew <mph-at-dorsai.org> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] netstat's limitations
  21. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] netstat's limitations
  22. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Where are the Minutes Joann?
  23. 2006-03-08 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Minutes of March 6 meeting
  24. 2006-03-08 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Minutes of March 6th Meeting
  25. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Minutes of March 6 meeting]
  26. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Minutes of March 6th Meeting
  27. 2006-03-08 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Minutes of March 7 meeting
  28. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Desktop Promise at IBM
  29. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Dell GNU Desktops, would make a good Journal Article
  30. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] More on GNU Desktops
  31. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Desktop Promise at IBM
  32. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Minutes of March 7 meeting
  33. 2006-03-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] USA Today cites Kushnick's ebook in merger
  34. 2006-03-09 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] netstat's limitations
  35. 2006-03-09 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] netstat's limitations
  36. 2006-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] netstat's limitations
  37. 2006-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] netstat's limitations
  38. 2006-03-09 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] netstat's limitations
  39. 2006-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Everything I hear I own
  40. 2006-03-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU Fax and Answering Machine
  41. 2006-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: 3Com Contact Info users]
  42. 2006-03-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [501techclub-ny] organization needs emergency IT help]
  43. 2006-03-10 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [501techclub-ny] organization needs e
  44. 2006-03-10 dspira-at-att.net (Dave_att) Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Minutes of March 6 meeting
  45. 2006-03-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Minutes of March 6 meeting
  46. 2006-03-13 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] FW: UNIGROUP 16-MAR-2006 (Thu): The MySQL RDBMS
  47. 2006-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [Hardhats-members] Ubuntu code of conduct]
  48. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  49. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: A better idea for Net neutrality
  50. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Bayonne Announcement
  51. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - Analysts Question
  52. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] RE: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - Analysts Question
  53. 2006-03-15 From: "mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  54. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  55. 2006-03-15 From: "mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  56. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  57. 2006-03-15 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  58. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article [was: Multichannel News -AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments]
  59. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  60. 2006-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  61. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] Fwd: Multichannel News - Analysts
  62. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Healthcare Software News
  63. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article [was: Multichannel
  64. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article [was:
  65. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article [was:
  66. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article [was:
  67. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article
  68. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  69. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A small marble beginning
  70. 2006-03-16 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Activity Planning, Journal Meeting
  71. 2006-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal Meeting
  72. 2006-03-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MS Vs IBM
  73. 2006-03-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Feb 9-11?
  74. 2006-03-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: NYLXS Journal Meeting]
  75. 2006-03-17 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Journal Meeting
  76. 2006-03-20 rc <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Great Brooklyn Stuff
  77. 2006-03-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article [was: Multichannel News -AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments]
  78. 2006-03-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [nycwireless] New Yorker Article [was: Multichannel News -AnalystsQuestionBellInvestments]
  79. 2006-03-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Reminder: Journal Meeting
  80. 2006-03-20 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] where is everybody?
  81. 2006-03-20 WWWhatsup <joly-at-dti.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] EFF HR.1201 campaign
  82. 2006-03-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] EFF HR.1201 campaign
  83. 2006-03-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] where is everybody?
  84. 2006-03-20 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] where is everybody?
  85. 2006-03-21 From: "J.E. Cripps" <cycmn-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] where is everybody?
  86. 2006-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ANNOUNCE: Leading Itanium Processor Architects to Keynote Gelato Conference
  87. 2006-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Grants
  88. 2006-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: RE: [Hardhats-members] Open source and accessibility]
  89. 2006-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Hardhats-members] Mac,m Linux, CrossOver and stuff (was: Open
  90. 2006-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A step above Slashdot
  91. 2006-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Study and the consequences of the DMCA
  92. 2006-03-21 rc <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A step above Slashdot
  93. 2006-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: CareerBuilder.com: DATA ENTRY & SCANNER PRO - Needed ASAP]
  94. 2006-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A step above Slashdot
  95. 2006-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Hardhats-members] Mac,m Linux, CrossOver and stuff (was: Ope
  96. 2006-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Publication
  97. 2006-03-23 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Workshop on NYS Grant Opportunities
  98. 2006-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Penguin Day?
  99. 2006-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: [Fwd: Fwd: Shared Parenting Round 2 plus New Column: Are
  100. 2006-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Fwd: Shared Parenting Round 2 plus New Column: Are American
  101. 2006-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Inquiry from a Disable IT Worker Looking for Some Insight- I
  102. 2006-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Inquiry from a Disable IT Worker Looking for Some Insight- I
  103. 2006-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] gtk-gnuetella
  104. 2006-03-24 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] BEING TAXED OUT OF N.Y.
  105. 2006-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Free (as in Software) Drugs
  106. 2006-03-27 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A Tale of Complete Stupidity and Its True! Oklahoma city threa tens
  107. 2006-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Cancelled Comics Cavalcade
  108. 2006-03-29 MLR<mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Crazy Cat in Conn. Ambushes the Avon Lady
  109. 2006-03-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: new study on Linux management being released tomorrow ...]
  110. 2006-03-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Crazy Cat in Conn. Ambushes the Avon Lady
  111. 2006-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] touring Brooklyn
  112. 2006-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Cancelled Comics Cavalcade
  113. 2006-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Wynkoop Rewriting History
  114. 2006-03-30 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux supporters fiddle while OpenSSH burns
  115. 2006-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [501techclub-ny] Funding opportunity: Third Wave Foundation
  116. 2006-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Adam Kosmin has been a star!
  117. 2006-03-30 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal
  118. 2006-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal
  119. 2006-03-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Jobs
  120. 2006-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Parental Rights in Albany
  121. 2006-03-31 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] We Are Not Alone: Bristol City Council Converts 5,500 desktops to
  122. 2006-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] We Are Not Alone: Bristol City Council
  123. 2006-03-31 From: "mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal
  124. 2006-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal
  125. 2006-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Assembler Workshop and questions
  126. 2006-03-31 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal
  127. 2006-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal
  128. 2006-03-31 From: "mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com" <mlr52-at-mycouponmagic.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal
  129. 2006-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Out of Print Books

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