|SUBJECT ||Subject: [firstname.lastname@example.org: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Favorite way to ban an IP from your webserver?]
|Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 20:31:45 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
To: Mark Simko
Cc: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Favorite way to ban an IP from your webserver?
On Tue, Dec 11, 2007 at 10:42:53AM -0500, Mark Simko wrote:
> It is a very dangerous thing, and I'm glad I found out about it through
> one of these mailing lists. someone used a signature that said:
> "when all else fails rm -rf /"
> It seemed humorous to me, but it did not come with a warning.
> Fortunately I knew enough about the linux system to know it was
> dangerous and to look it up and figure it out.
> I find no security in it remaining obscure. Getting that command out
> there and generally known is best. Attaching a warning is best too.
> Without a warning, it is like leaving a boobytrap for someone.
> I did find the signature used humorous, though.
> I guess it all depends on the context.
Yeah I'm trying to explain it but .... egos might be more dangerous that
> On Tue, 2007-12-11 at 00:05 -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:14:57PM -0500, Ben Eisenbraun wrote:
> > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:24:09PM -0500, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 09:24:29PM -0500, Jon Hermansen wrote:
> > > > > # rm -rf /
> > > >
> > > > That may not be funny.
> > >
> > > Oh, it's definitely funny.
> > Even if I found the destruction that someone can cause with this command could be
> > offset by some degree of humor, it is still not funny. It is old hat and very
> > worn out.
> > > This is the you-must-be-smarter-than-this-
> > > chair-to-use-a-UNIX-machine test.
> > >
> > That's generally a bad test, and not a sound philosophy. If you want an OS used only
> > be a few highly trained (not necessarily educated) monkeys, then this is the right philosophy.
> > If you want an OS that the general public can embrace and people can grow with, then you need
> > to rethink this.
> > > It also contains a few valuable life lessons:
> > >
> > > - don't do stuff just because some random stranger tells you to.
> > Trust is the foundation of not only Free Software, but human existence.
> > A large sum of the difference between human intelligence and chimps is
> > the high degree of trust and cooperation we are capable of. Nothing
> > can happen without trust.
> > > - backup your data. (and test the backups!)
> > Teach him how to use tar or dump then.
> > >
> > > :-)
> > Ruben
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You must be a stupid engineer then, because politcs and technology have been attached at the hip since the 1st dynasty in Ancient Egypt. I guess you missed that one."
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