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DATE 2007-12-30
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OLPC
http://blogs.cnet.com/8301-13512_1-9838222-23.html


Unboxing OLPC's XO-1 laptop Posted by Peter Glaskowsky 1 comment

I'm a little late to the party with this unboxing of my new OLPC XO-1
laptop, but the machine arrived while I was out of town visiting my
family for Christmas. In fact, there's a story there.

Before I left, I started hearing that people were receiving their XO-1's,
and I realized that if mine didn't show up before I left, it would almost
certainly arrive while I was gone. The OLPC people sent out no shipment
notifications and didn't reply to several emails, so I had no way to
delay the shipment or contact the carrier.

I left a note on my front doorstep: "PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE PACKAGES
HERE. HOLD FOR PICKUP. THANKS."

But on Dec. 21, a FedEx delivery person left the XO-1 box right next
to the note, and they were both still there six days later when I got
home. All that time, the package was in clear view of the street. Never
mind New York-- I love Cupertino.

If you get an XO-1, don't throw away the box! You'll need it for the
free year of Internet access through T-Mobile WiFi hot spots. The box
has the reference number for account activation.

In keeping with the low-cost nature of the XO-1, its packaging is minimal
but adequate.

XO-1 documentation

The OLPC XO-1 comes with only a few sheets of basic “Getting Started”
documentation. (Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

The XO-1 comes with no manual, just two sheets of paper: one showing
the hardware and software features of the unit plus some warning icons,
and one with a thank-you note from OLPC founder Nicholas Negroponte.

There's also no warranty booklet. The XO-1 comes with a 30-day limited
warranty, but that's it, and it isn't written down anywhere.

I was somewhat surprised-- and pleased-- to see that OLPC provided
a toll-free support phone number. As I'll describe in my forthcoming
review, that might prove to be an expensive decision; the XO-1 is not
yet very well documented, and some aspects of its operation are difficult
to understand.

Of course, there's some XO-1 documentation online. Negroponte's letter
points buyers to the laptopgiving.com website, which in turn points to
the main laptop.org site, and from there a diligent search will reveal
more detailed information on the OLPC Wiki.

But many aspects of laptop operation that are familiar to Windows,
Mac, or Linux users aren't documented anywhere, as far as I can tell,
probably because they aren't even supported. I can't find any way to
control power-management features, for example.

Bottom line: the OLPC developers have a lot of work to do. These early
systems don't even qualify as beta-test devices; they're just an alpha
release, not feature-complete.

But they do work, and I still believe the XO-1's primitive state of
development could actually be a positive benefit for bright children,
who will be challenged to learn about these machines in ways they'd
never have to do with a mainstream laptop PC.

XO-1 box contents

Other than the documentation, the box contains only three items: the XO-1,
the battery, and the AC adapter. (Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

The XO-1's limited hardware budget isn't wasted on unnecessary
doo-dads. It arrives with the bare minimum of accessories: a battery
and an AC adapter.

XO-1 battery and AC adapter

The battery is rated at 6.5V, 3.1AH (20.15 watt-hours); the AC adapter
is rated at 12V, 1.42A (17.04W). (Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

Both of these items are in keeping with the low-power design of the
XO-1. Most laptops today come with larger batteries, often in the
50 watt-hour range; the XO-1's battery provides only 40% as much
capacity. The AC adapters for full-size notebook PCs usually provide
over 65W of power; this one is about a quarter as powerful.

But these are advantages, not disadvantages. A low-power laptop is like
a lightweight car. A lighter car can use a smaller engine, brakes, and
suspension without compromising performance. If the car gets heavier,
the other components have to bulk up too. Similarly, reducing a laptop's
power consumption saves weight in the machine itself and in its battery
and power adapter.

XO-1 battery compartment

The XO-1's battery compartment is well integrated into the bottom of the unit.
(Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

You can see here that the whole surface of the XO-1's hard plastic case is covered by a pattern of nubbly dots that make it easier to grip without making it any more difficult to clean-- a wise decision by the developers. There's also a bit of whimsy around the handle section, where the openings are ringed by little "X" shapes that form the XO-1 logo.

XO-1 bottom side

There are four soft narrow feet at the corners of the unit.
(Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

Since the hard plastic would still be too slippery on a desk, the XO-1 has molded-in feet made of some non-skid rubbery material. They aren't very tall; since the XO-1 consumes so little power, there's no need to create airspace under the case.

XO-1 top side

Each XO-1 gets a logo with a distinctive color combination.
(Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

My XO-1 came with a nice blue/green logo color combination. I don't know how many combinations there are, but I gather it's a large number, reducing the odds that two students in the same class will have the same colors.

XO-1 open

Open, the XO-1 shows its most distinctive feature: the antenna “ears”.
(Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

The XO-1's ears contain 2.4 GHz antennas shared between the WiFi and proprietary mesh networks. They're also the locks that hold the machine closed. They engage with spring-loaded pins so the top will snap closed even if the ears are stowed first.

XO-1 left side

The left side of the XO-1 provides microphone, headphone, and USB jacks.
(Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

There aren't a lot of I/O options on the XO-1, just the basic requirements. The microphone jack can also be used as a generic analog input; the XO-1 comes with an application that works like a simple oscilloscope. Neat.

(Actually, applications are called "activities" on the XO-1. Sometimes it seems like the developers are thinking too differently.)

XO-1 right side

Two more USB jacks are located on the right side.
(Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

Another clever design feature on the other side of the unit: two USB jacks are positioned at different angles to make it more likely that awkwardly-shaped USB devices can be accommodated.

XO-1 display

The XO-1 display is flanked by more buttons including a D-pad and a cluster of buttons like a game controller.
(Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

The XO-1's display is about what I expected. Resolution is good, but colors aren't as vibrant as on traditional LCDs. As I should have predicted, color saturation is related to the ratio of backlighting to ambient light. Outdoors or under a strong indoor light, colors are very washed out even with the backlight cranked up all the way. In sunlight, color disappears entirely, and you might as well turn off the backlight since it doesn't help.

The LCD viewing angle, unfortunately, is very poor. At little as 30 degrees off-axis, contrast begins to drop sharply. Two children sitting side-by-side would have trouble viewing the screen together. For ebook reading, the XO-1's display can't match those of the Sony PRS-505 Reader and the Amazon Kindle.

Not shown here is the Secure Digital (SD-card) slot, which is under the lower edge of the right side of the display unit. The positioning helps protect the slot, but there's no way to get clear access to it, which may limit the range of SD-card peripherals that can be used with the XO-1. I'm not sure this was so clever.

XO-1 keyboard

The XO-1 keyboard uses a flimsy rubber membrane over soft springy keyswitches.
(Credit: Peter N. Glaskowsky)

To me, the low point of the XO-1's physical design is the keyboard. The synthetic rubber membrane is very thin and the keyswitches are very soft so there's almost no tactile feedback. Hitting a key feels almost the same as missing one.

Perhaps children's fingertips are sensitive enough to get the feedback they need for good touch-typing. But even if that's true, I fear this keyboard may be too fragile.

The keys are also smaller than necessary, even given the focus on small hands. The keyboard is 15 keys wide, with a double-wide Enter key plus tab, [, and ] keys on the QWERTY row. Although the OLPC developers took a fresh look at pretty much everything else, they slavishly imitated the high key counts of full-size notebooks to their detriment.

Since the XO-1 has multiple modifier keys-- shift, control, alt, fn, "hand", and alt-graph keys-- it would have been better to move more of the punctuation symbols to letter keys, reducing the key count and allowing the keys themselves to be slightly larger, making typing easier.

The keyboard is printed with many international characters, but it isn't as cluttered as it could be. Only one key has four different symbols on it (semicolon, colon, and underlined lower-case a and o characters); most have three, and some have two. G, K, L, Z, X, V, and B are left alone. Oddly, there's a whole extra key just for the "times" and "divide" symbols.

There are also many extra keys for features unique to the XO-1's "Sugar" user interface, which is a good thing. Sugar relies too much on tricks like hot corners and tabs, disappearing borders and drawers, and other features that require a lot of careful cursor motion. Unfortunately, the XO-1's touchpad doesn't operate very smoothly or accurately, at least for me, and there's no apparent way to control its sensitivity or the speed of cursor motion.

Because I was somewhat critical of OLPC in earlier blog posts (here and here) for making strong promises about battery life that weren't supported by the early prototype hardware, the first thing I did with the new machine after charging it for a few hours was to run a couple of simple battery-life benchmark tests.

In the first test, I connected the XO-1 to my home WiFi network (which required falling back from WPA security to the relatively insecure WEP standard), cranked the backlight up to maximum, and opened my favorite webcam page: Ben Lovejoy's auto-refreshing feed for the camera at the public entrance to the Nürburgring racetrack in Germany.

The page didn't load reliably-- sometimes the WiFi connection would drop, provoking Server Not Found errors-- but I kept an eye on it and got it back on track each time it derailed. This wasn't the "heavy use" that OLPC's Walter Bender was describing in his comments on 60 Minutes last May, but at least it was something.

The result? The XO-1 ran for just 45 seconds short of four hours. Not so great.

Well, it's a prototype, and OLPC vice-president Jim Gettys said that "heavy use" could be construed to cover uses as lightweight as reading an ebook outdoors with the backlight off. So I charged the machine overnight and, this morning, from a clean reboot, I started an ebook-reading test with the backlight off. I opened a PDF provided with the XO-1 and pushed the page-down button once every 20 minutes to keep the display from turning off entirely. The machine ran for 4 hours and 59 minutes. (I swear these are the actual numbers.) That's a long way from Bender's promise of "10 to 12 hours... with heavy use."

But still, it's a prototype, and as Gettys explained, there are many opportunities for further power reductions.

Stay tuned-- I'll have more benchmark data and a full review of the XO-1 in a future blog post.
Peter N. Glaskowsky is the chief system architect at Montalvo Systems, a Silicon Valley microprocessor-design start-up. He is a member of the CNET Blog Network, and is not an employee of CNET.
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  55. 2007-12-16 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stupid Add Campaign by a local web site
  56. 2007-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Stupid Add Campaign by a local web site
  57. 2007-12-16 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Can anyone help on Monday?
  58. 2007-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Can anyone help on Monday?
  59. 2007-12-16 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Can anyone help on Monday?
  60. 2007-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Can anyone help on Monday?
  61. 2007-12-16 From: "Michael L. Richardson" <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Can anyone help on Monday?
  62. 2007-12-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS Business Meeting
  63. 2007-12-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] GNU Healthcare and IT
  64. 2007-12-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [marco-at-digifreedom.net: Wanted: Free Software resources for all families and schools]
  65. 2007-12-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [pshapiro-at-his.com: [Dclug] impressions of Eee PC from public library viewpoint]
  66. 2007-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [jarod-at-wilsonet.com: Re: New York Stock Exchange moves to Linux]
  67. 2007-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [meissner-at-suse.de: [security-announce] SUSE Security Announcement: Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.10 (SUSE-SA:2007:066)]
  68. 2007-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [meissner-at-suse.de: [security-announce] SUSE Security Summary Report SUSE-SR:2007:025]
  69. 2007-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Acts of Violence in the Universe - News You Might Have Missed
  70. 2007-12-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: [nylug-talk] HP 5Si]
  71. 2007-12-18 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NY and ODF or OOXML
  72. 2007-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NY and ODF or OOXML
  73. 2007-12-19 email <ray-pub-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NY and ODF or OOXML
  74. 2007-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Meeting Tonight 6:30PM
  75. 2007-12-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Corperate Spying OK for Copyright
  76. 2007-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] ms-EU Anti-Trust results
  77. 2007-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] check this out
  78. 2007-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [gaf-at-blu.org: Re: SCO has been delisted by NASDAQ]
  79. 2007-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] OLPC
  80. 2007-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Freedom-IT
  81. 2007-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Mike's Children Workshop
  82. 2007-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [newsletter-at-mysql.com: MySQL Newsletter: December 2007]

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