Sat Oct 9 16:50:37 2004 e.s.t
EVENTS
 FREE
SOFTWARE
INSTITUTE

POLITICS
JOBS
MEMBERS'
CORNER

MAILING
LIST

NYLXS Mailing Lists and Archives
NYLXS Members have a lot to say and share but we don't keep many secrets. Join the Hangout Mailing List and say your peice.
2013-05-24 | 2013-04-24 | 2013-03-24 | 2013-02-24 | 2013-01-24 | 2012-12-24 | 2012-11-24 | 2012-10-24 | 2012-09-24 | 2012-08-24 | 2012-07-24 | 2012-06-24 | 2012-05-24 | 2012-04-24 | 2012-03-24 | 2012-02-24 | 2012-01-24 | 2011-12-24 | 2011-11-24 | 2011-10-24 | 2011-09-24 | 2011-08-24 | 2011-07-24 | 2011-06-24 | 2011-05-24 | 2011-04-24 | 2011-03-24 | 2011-02-24 | 2011-01-24 | 2010-12-24 | 2010-11-24 | 2010-10-24 | 2010-09-24 | 2010-08-24 | 2010-07-24 | 2010-06-24 | 2010-05-24 | 2010-04-24 | 2010-03-24 | 2010-02-24 | 2010-01-24 | 2009-12-24 | 2009-11-24 | 2009-10-24 | 2009-09-24 | 2009-08-24 | 2009-07-24 | 2009-06-24 | 2009-05-24 | 2009-04-24 | 2009-03-24 | 2009-02-24 | 2009-01-24 | 2008-12-24 | 2008-11-24 | 2008-10-24 | 2008-09-24 | 2008-08-24 | 2008-07-24 | 2008-06-24 | 2008-05-24 | 2008-04-24 | 2008-03-24 | 2008-02-24 | 2008-01-24 | 2007-12-24 | 2007-11-24 | 2007-10-24 | 2007-09-24 | 2007-08-24 | 2007-07-24 | 2007-06-24 | 2007-05-24 | 2007-04-24 | 2007-03-24 | 2007-02-24 | 2007-01-24 | 2006-12-24 | 2006-11-24 | 2006-10-24 | 2006-09-24 | 2006-08-24 | 2006-07-24 | 2006-06-24 | 2006-05-24 | 2006-04-24 | 2006-03-24 | 2006-02-24 | 2006-01-24 | 2005-12-24 | 2005-11-24 | 2005-10-24 | 2005-09-24 | 2005-08-24 | 2005-07-24 | 2005-06-24 | 2005-05-24 | 2005-04-24 | 2005-03-24 | 2005-02-24 | 2005-01-24 | 2004-12-24 | 2004-11-24 | 2004-10-24 | 2004-09-24 | 2004-08-24 | 2004-07-24 | 2004-06-24 | 2004-05-24 | 2004-04-24 | 2004-03-24 | 2004-02-24 | 2004-01-24 | 2003-12-24 | 2003-11-24 | 2003-10-24 | 2003-09-24 | 2003-08-24 | 2003-07-24 | 2003-06-24 | 2003-05-24 | 2003-04-24 | 2003-03-24 | 2003-02-24 | 2003-01-24 | 2002-12-24 | 2002-11-24 | 2002-10-24 | 2002-09-24 | 2002-08-24 | 2002-07-24 | 2002-06-24 | 2002-05-24 | 2002-04-24 | 2002-03-24 | 2002-02-24 | 2002-01-24 | 2001-12-24 | 2001-11-24 | 2001-10-24 | 2001-09-24 | 2001-08-24 | 2001-07-24 | 2001-06-24 | 2001-05-24 | 2001-04-24 | 2001-03-24 | 2001-02-24 | 2001-01-24 | 2000-12-24 | 2000-11-24 | 2000-10-24 | 2000-09-24 | 2000-08-24 | 2000-07-24 | 2000-06-24 | 2000-05-24 | 2000-04-24 | 2000-03-24 | 2000-02-24 | 2000-01-24 | 1999-12-24

Key: archive Value: 2010-02-01

Key: id Value: 539692

MESSAGE
DATE 2010-02-09
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars in Europe Part II
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Tue Feb 9 00:29:46 2010
Return-Path:
X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com
Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com
Received: by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix)
id 208FB49C00; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:29:46 -0500 (EST)
Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com
Received: by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28)
id 0F7194C5F2; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:29:45 -0500 (EST)
Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73])
by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6DBD49C00
for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:29:45 -0500 (EST)
Received: from panix1.panix.com (panix1.panix.com [166.84.1.1])
by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68EEE38E45
for ; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:29:53 -0500 (EST)
Received: by panix1.panix.com (Postfix, from userid 20529)
id 5EC9714B98; Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:29:53 -0500 (EST)
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 00:29:53 -0500
From: Ruben Safir
To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars in Europe Part II
Message-ID: <20100209052953.GA27599-at-panix.com>
References: <20100209052817.GA22792-at-panix.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In-Reply-To: <20100209052817.GA22792-at-panix.com>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)
Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Precedence: bulk
Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com

BBC NEWS
Web giants oppose copyright plans
By Jonathan Fildes
Technology reporter, BBC News

Some of the biggest names on the web have written to Peter Mandelson to
express "grave concerns" about elements of the Digital Economy Bill.

Facebook, Google, Yahoo and eBay object to a clause that they say could
give government "unprecedented and sweeping powers" to amend copyright
laws.

"We urge you to remove Clause 17 from the bill," the letter read.

However, the government has said it believes the clause will
"future-proof online copyright laws".

"The law must keep pace with technology, so that the Government can act
if new ways of seriously infringing copyright develop in the future," a
spokesperson for the Department for Business, Innovation and Skills
(Bis).

The consortium believe that if Clause 17, as it is known, is approved it
will give "any future Secretary of State" the ability to amend copyright
laws as they see fit.
DIGITAL ECONOMY BILL
# Legal framework for tackling copyright infringement via education and
# technical measures
# Ofcom given powers to appoint and fund independently funded news
# consortia
# New duties for Ofcom to assess the UK's communications infrastructure
# every two years
# Modernising spectrum to increase investment in mobile broadband
# Framework for the move to digital radio switchover by 2015
# Updating Channel 4 functions to encompass public service content, on
# TV and online
# Age ratings compulsory for all boxed video games aimed at those over
# 12 years

"This power could be used, for example, to introduce additional
technical measures or increase monitoring of user data even where no
illegal practice has taken place," the letter read.

This would "discourage innovation" and "impose unnecessary costs"
representatives of the firms wrote.

Others have suggested that the clause could be used to tweak laws so
that search engines could not publish summaries of news stories in their
results.

Bis said that clause 17 was a necessary extension of its plans to reduce
copyright theft and that fears that government would mould copyright
laws to their needs were unfounded.

"Business will not wake up one morning to a world in which government
has taken extensive digital powers," the spokesperson said.

"There are substantial constraints on how the power can be used, with
requirements for a consultation and votes in both houses of Parliament
before anything can happen."

However, the consortium of companies say the clause is so broad ranging
that it could risk "legitimate consumer use of current technology as
well as future developments".

"We all acknowledge that new business models need to emerge to support
creative content," the letter from European and UK representatives of
the firms reads.

"They are inherently risky and entrepreneurs rely heavily on there being
a consistent and stable approach to copyright enforcement.

"This clause would inject an unprecedented level of uncertainty in this
regard."

Other groups including US digital rights group The Electronic Frontier
Foundation have objected to it.

Clause 17 is part of the government's Digital Economy Bill, outlined in
the Queen's speech in November 2009.

The bill includes a shake-up of the radio spectrum, a classification
system for video games and plans to tackle illegal file-sharing.

The so-called "three strikes" element of the bill would give regulator
Ofcom new powers to disconnect persistent net pirates.

The plans have proved controversial with lobby organisation The Open
Rights Group urging people to contact their MP to oppose the plans.

The bill will have its second reading in the House of Lords on 2
December. It will have to go through various other readings and drafts
before it becomes law.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/technology/8390623.stm

Published: 2009/12/02 15:11:02 GMT

© BBC MMX

  1. 2010-02-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Michael George
  2. 2010-02-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] sddsfs
  3. 2010-02-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The end of the future
  4. 2010-02-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The end of the future
  5. 2010-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] Operations Manager, NYC | 120k+
  6. 2010-02-02 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] Operations Manager, NYC | 120k+
  7. 2010-02-02 From: "Stan Davenport" <stan-at-etrtechcenter.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] Operations Manager, NYC | 120k+
  8. 2010-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - Introduction
  9. 2010-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - Introduction
  10. 2010-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop I datatypes cont..
  11. 2010-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop I datatypes cont..
  12. 2010-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop I datatypes cont..
  13. 2010-02-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop I datatypes cont..
  14. 2010-02-02 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] Operations Manager, NYC | 120k+
  15. 2010-02-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop I datatypes cont..
  16. 2010-02-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  17. 2010-02-05 Paul Charles Leddy <pcleddy-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The new mail server
  18. 2010-02-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop I datatypes cont..
  19. 2010-02-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop I datatypes cont..
  20. 2010-02-05 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  21. 2010-02-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tech Nite
  22. 2010-02-06 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  23. 2010-02-06 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  24. 2010-02-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] They are OUT OF PRINT stupid..
  25. 2010-02-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Worlds most secure Operating System
  26. 2010-02-07 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  27. 2010-02-07 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  28. 2010-02-07 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  29. 2010-02-07 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  30. 2010-02-07 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  31. 2010-02-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop _ Syntax Basics
  32. 2010-02-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Criminals on PBS
  33. 2010-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop _ Syntax Basics
  34. 2010-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars in Europe Part II
  35. 2010-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C Code for Android
  36. 2010-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars in Europe
  37. 2010-02-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Security Alert
  38. 2010-02-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop _ Syntax Basics
  39. 2010-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Downtown Brooklyn Tech Center
  40. 2010-02-11 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tech Night This Week
  41. 2010-02-12 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Downtown Brooklyn Tech Center
  42. 2010-02-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hi Ruben
  43. 2010-02-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hi Ruben
  44. 2010-02-12 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hi Ruben
  45. 2010-02-12 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hi Ruben
  46. 2010-02-12 Paul Charles Leddy <pcleddy-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Ruben
  47. 2010-02-12 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tech Night This Week
  48. 2010-02-12 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Hi Ruben
  49. 2010-02-12 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] LAMP Developer, NYC | 90-100k
  50. 2010-02-13 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Downtown Brooklyn Tech Center
  51. 2010-02-13 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Downtown Brooklyn Tech Center
  52. 2010-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - side discussing on C++ variable declarations
  53. 2010-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - side discussing on C++ variable declarations
  54. 2010-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - side discussing on C++ variable declarations
  55. 2010-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - side discussing on C++ variable declarations
  56. 2010-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - side discussing on C++ variable declarations
  57. 2010-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - side discussing on C++ variable declarations
  58. 2010-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - side discussing on C++ variable declarations
  59. 2010-02-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop - side discussing on C++ variable declarations
  60. 2010-02-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop _ Syntax Basics
  61. 2010-02-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop _ Syntax Basics
  62. 2010-02-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk,
  63. 2010-02-15 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A good friend of mine is looking for a job
  64. 2010-02-15 Ron <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk, C++, Python) TOMORROW February 16 6:00PM-8:00PM
  65. 2010-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Amy
  66. 2010-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] 30 C++/Unix Programmers, NYC | to
  67. 2010-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] 30 C++/Unix Programmers, NYC | to 200k
  68. 2010-02-16 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> RE: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] 30 C++/Unix Programmers, NYC | to 200kor to $700/day
  69. 2010-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Amy
  70. 2010-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Catching up to me
  71. 2010-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Senior Linux Engineer - Job Opportunity for NYLXS
  72. 2010-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [Linux.com.users] Ultimate Linux Guru Update
  73. 2010-02-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLUG Workshop / Hacking Society, (Smalltalk, C++, Python) TODAY February 16 6:00PM-8:00PM
  74. 2010-02-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Passing Tradition in the digital age
  75. 2010-02-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] NYLUG Presents: 2/17 -at- 6:30PM Luke Kanies
  76. 2010-02-16 From: "Beau Gould" <bg-at-capitalmarketsp.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [JOB] 30 C++/Unix Programmers, NYC | to 200k or to $700/day
  77. 2010-02-17 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Streaming LIVE: Luke Kanies on The Future of Puppet
  78. 2010-02-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Technight - Sunday at 6:00PM till --- when ever
  79. 2010-02-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: TM Insider: HAIR: The Best Musical of 2009 for just $55
  80. 2010-02-19 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Technight - Hacking and Ice Cast - this Sunday Evening
  81. 2010-02-19 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (live streaming) Free Software Round Table Saturday 2/20 at 10 PM
  82. 2010-02-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C Programming and Modern Approach question
  83. 2010-02-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop _ Syntax Basics
  84. 2010-02-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Technight - Hacking and Ice Cast - this Sunday Evening
  85. 2010-02-20 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (live streaming) Free Software Round TableSaturday
  86. 2010-02-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (live streaming) Free Software Round
  87. 2010-02-20 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] (live streaming) Free Software Round TableSaturday in ONE HOUR (10
  88. 2010-02-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] MS/Open SOurce Dejavu all over again
  89. 2010-02-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IceCast Server
  90. 2010-02-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: [knking-at-gsu.edu: Re: C Programming and Modern
  91. 2010-02-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] DSL Router Virus
  92. 2010-02-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Only significant Issue in the Healthcare
  93. 2010-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  94. 2010-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  95. 2010-02-24 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  96. 2010-02-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  97. 2010-02-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] The Only significant Issue in the Healthcare bill
  98. 2010-02-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  99. 2010-02-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  100. 2010-02-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  101. 2010-02-25 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  102. 2010-02-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  103. 2010-02-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  104. 2010-02-26 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this should not get through
  105. 2010-02-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [FSF] Day Against DRM: May 4
  106. 2010-02-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] C++ Workshop _ Syntax Basics - Aggregate Data Types

NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!