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DATE 2011-11-01

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MESSAGE
DATE 2011-11-18
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
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From: Ruben Safir
To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
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Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 09:33:43PM -0500, Ron Guerin wrote:
> Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On 11/16/2011 05:48 PM, Ron Guerin wrote:
> >>
> >
> > eh
> >
> > I'm not prevey to any inside information or anything that is happening,
> > but it seems to me without a clear line of leadership, and without a
> > means to arbitrate differences, this is going to happen. What saved our
> > ass from Jay and Bret was the sound charter and specific rules for power
> > sharing and arbitration, which tweedle dumb and tweedle-dee did their
> > very best to shake to the ground.
>
> I just want to make sure it's in the record permanently, that Brian
> Gupta and the other members of the Gang of Four led a coup against NYLUG
> for their own personal benefit. I don't trust the NYLUG archives will
> be reliable on this matter.
>
> - Ron


I can tell you right now, Ron, that this guy Brian is a complete ASS.
That leaves Peter, Jim,and Sunny, who may or may not be an ass, I don't
know how he has grown.

But here is the thing. NYLUG had no incorperation because JIM didn't
want it, going ALL the way back. AND god knows, Peter, who I love,
hasn't been involved with NYLUG for a long time to my knowledge.

The reason for the lack of bylaws was because Jim didn't want to be
restricted by them. So frankly, they can say whatever they want, and do
whatever they want because there is no RULES. That is why when I
created NYLXS I made very explicit rules and handbook designed to
promote a disperment and empowerment of membership and a clear line of
authoirty and voting.

If they chose to right up a charter on the Spring Street Station IRT
platform and use it for incorperation, I don't think there is a damn
thing anyone can do. I knew that 10 years ago, and it is still true.

If your really pissed, we can use some help with NYLXS and at least you
know you can never be squeezed out.

Voting Members pay $40 and give 75 hours a year voluntering time.
Members vote the board. The board creates commitees. Committeees run
the organization...or so it is in theory.

Ruben

  1. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Killing the Fucking Internet but GOOD part II
  2. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Killing the Fucking Internet but GOOD part
  3. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A Party of Pirates!
  4. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars - Killing Culture?
  5. 2011-11-01 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of NYLUG the corporation! (everyone is eligible, but hurry!)]
  6. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  7. 2011-11-01 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  8. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  9. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  10. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  11. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  12. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Congressional Response - Killing the internet II
  13. 2011-11-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  14. 2011-11-06 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  15. 2011-11-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  16. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  17. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  18. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  19. 2011-11-07 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  20. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  21. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  22. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  23. 2011-11-07 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  24. 2011-11-08 Ruben Safir <ceo.brooklyn-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  25. 2011-11-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  26. 2011-11-09 Redpill <redpill-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  27. 2011-11-09 Redpill <redpill-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  28. 2011-11-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  29. 2011-11-11 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  30. 2011-11-13 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  31. 2011-11-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  32. 2011-11-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: AMD A43300M Chips and Linux]
  33. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars heat up
  34. 2011-11-16 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars heat up
  35. 2011-11-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  36. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Copyright Wars heat up
  37. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Copyright Wars heat up
  38. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  39. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  40. 2011-11-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  41. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  42. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  43. 2011-11-17 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-talk] NYLUG for the Few and Not You
  44. 2011-11-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Not Right
  45. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  46. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  47. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  48. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  49. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  50. 2011-11-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  51. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  52. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  53. 2011-11-18 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  54. 2011-11-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  55. 2011-11-21 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  56. 2011-11-21 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  57. 2011-11-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  58. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Fwd: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  59. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  60. 2011-11-27 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  61. 2011-11-27 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  62. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  63. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good Act
  64. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good Act

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