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DATE | 2011-11-18 |
FROM | Ron Guerin
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SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
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From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Fri Nov 18 00:35:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) id 5DB6E100B71; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:35:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: hangout-outgoing-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com Received: by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 28) id 4EB12100B74; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:35:44 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com Received: from mail.vnetworx.net (mail.vnetworx.net [50.116.48.152]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF91100B71 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:35:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.vnetworx.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.vnetworx.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32AC3C125D for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:36:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.4.2] (ool-4a581804.dyn.optonline.net [74.88.24.4]) by mail.vnetworx.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C78613C125C for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:36:53 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4EC5EEF5.4060206-at-vnetworx.net> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:36:53 -0500 From: Ron Guerin User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hangout Subject: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.] References: <4EC43DCF.9080300-at-vnetworx.net> <4EC45589.9040301-at-panix.com> <4EC47287.5090700-at-vnetworx.net> <20111118052352.GA16742-at-panix.com> In-Reply-To: <20111118052352.GA16742-at-panix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP by generator.vnetworx.net Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com
Ruben Safir wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 09:33:43PM -0500, Ron Guerin wrote: >> Ruben Safir wrote:
> I can tell you right now, Ron, that this guy Brian is a complete ASS. > That leaves Peter, Jim,and Sunny, who may or may not be an ass, I don't > know how he has grown.
I am apparently becoming the victim of a character assassination now as well. If/when it hits the list, I do hope some people will speak up.
> But here is the thing. NYLUG had no incorperation because JIM didn't > want it, going ALL the way back. AND god knows, Peter, who I love, > hasn't been involved with NYLUG for a long time to my knowledge. > > The reason for the lack of bylaws was because Jim didn't want to be > restricted by them. So frankly, they can say whatever they want, and do > whatever they want because there is no RULES. That is why when I > created NYLXS I made very explicit rules and handbook designed to > promote a disperment and empowerment of membership and a clear line of > authoirty and voting. > > If they chose to right up a charter on the Spring Street Station IRT > platform and use it for incorperation, I don't think there is a damn > thing anyone can do. I knew that 10 years ago, and it is still true. > > If your really pissed, we can use some help with NYLXS and at least you > know you can never be squeezed out.
I'm probably going to need some time away after all this, but it is likely that I will get involved again at some point if anyone still thinks I've got something useful to contribute. It seems rather unlikely though that I'll be welcome at NYLUG anytime soon in any event.
- Ron
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