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DATE 2011-11-27
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good Act
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On 11/27/2011 03:29 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
> As per Rons link - I'd just like to comment on this
>
>
>
> <> IP Act. Like you, I believe that consumers should have access to a
> vibrant and innovative online community to discuss their ideas and
> opinions. At the same time, we must not let the internet become a
> haven for intellectual property thieves.>>
>
>
> Why not? Do we make the MTA responsible for Muggings and shut it
> down? Why does the Internet have to be burdened with a stifling
> amount of oversite and policing to protect a stupid little business
> segment like the Record Companies.
>
> If the record Companies die and the Internet flurishes, we'd all be
> better off and we would create a large number of jobs.
>
>
>
>
>
> <> clear.>>
>
> The threat to the internet by the IP owners is more clear. It is
> completely unclear what possible threat the internet is to the IP owners.
>
>
> <> theft costs our nation about $58 billion in lost output, 373,375 in
> lost jobs, and $16 billion in lost employee earnings. These numbers
> present an unacceptable burden to US businesses. In addition,
> companies may be less likely to innovate because their products may be
> stolen by intellectual property pirates, creating a drag on the US
> economy. The PROTECT IP Act addresses the problem of intellectual
> property theft online, but it also contains important due process
> protections to ensure that legal activity over the internet is not
> disrupted.>>
>
> This is not only a very small amount of business, (Lipitor Sales for
> Pfizer last year in the US was 14 BILLION alone), but it is also a LIE.
>
> The real threat to the economy, and the NY economy specifically, is
> that your stupid bill, if it becomes law, with cause Google to close
> shop and go overseas where they can't be blamed for every damn users
> actions on earth and can do their business freely.
>
>
>
> << As you may know, the PROTECT IP Act would allow the Department of
> Justice to file a claim against a website that 1) has no significant
> purpose other than engaging in or facilitating copyright infringement,
> circumventing technology controlling access to copyrighted works, or
> selling or promoting counterfeit goods or services; or (2) is
> designed, operated, or marketed and used to engage in such activities.
> A judge would have to find that a website is intentionally violating
> intellectual property rights of an American entity before he could
> issue an order against that site. I believe PROTECT IP Act would
> provide law enforcement and intellectual property holders additional
> tools to protect American intellectual property from websites while
> still ensuring the constitutionally protected rights of free speech
> and due process.>>
>
> No - it provides the Music and Movie industry and unfair legal tool to
> sue large tech companies which are 1000x larger and employ thousands
> of more people, into bankruptcy for NO BENEFIT to the public. The
> only benefit of this bill is that it protects the BRIBES you take from
> the MPAA as campaign contributions and I HATE THIS.
>
>
>
> << The PROTECT IP Act currently is awaiting action on the floor of the
> Senate, and I will continue to monitor this bill as it moves through
> the Senate. Thank you for contacting me on this important issue.
> Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future if I can ever be of
> assistance to you on this, or any other matter. Sincerely, Charles
> E. Schumer United States Senator>>
>
>
> We MUST GET RID OF YOU if you want this BILL.
>
>
> Ruben



  1. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Killing the Fucking Internet but GOOD part II
  2. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Killing the Fucking Internet but GOOD part
  3. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A Party of Pirates!
  4. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars - Killing Culture?
  5. 2011-11-01 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of NYLUG the corporation! (everyone is eligible, but hurry!)]
  6. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  7. 2011-11-01 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  8. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  9. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  10. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  11. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  12. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Congressional Response - Killing the internet II
  13. 2011-11-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  14. 2011-11-06 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  15. 2011-11-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  16. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  17. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  18. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  19. 2011-11-07 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  20. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  21. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  22. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  23. 2011-11-07 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  24. 2011-11-08 Ruben Safir <ceo.brooklyn-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  25. 2011-11-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  26. 2011-11-09 Redpill <redpill-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  27. 2011-11-09 Redpill <redpill-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  28. 2011-11-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  29. 2011-11-11 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  30. 2011-11-13 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  31. 2011-11-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  32. 2011-11-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: AMD A43300M Chips and Linux]
  33. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars heat up
  34. 2011-11-16 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars heat up
  35. 2011-11-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  36. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Copyright Wars heat up
  37. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Copyright Wars heat up
  38. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  39. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  40. 2011-11-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  41. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  42. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  43. 2011-11-17 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-talk] NYLUG for the Few and Not You
  44. 2011-11-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Not Right
  45. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  46. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  47. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  48. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  49. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  50. 2011-11-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  51. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  52. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  53. 2011-11-18 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  54. 2011-11-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  55. 2011-11-21 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  56. 2011-11-21 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  57. 2011-11-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  58. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Fwd: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  59. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  60. 2011-11-27 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  61. 2011-11-27 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  62. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  63. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good Act
  64. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good Act

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