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DATE 2011-11-01

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MESSAGE
DATE 2011-11-27
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
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On 11/18/2011 04:45 PM, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand wrote:
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> November 18, 2011
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>
>
>
> Dear Ruben,
>
>
>
> Thank you for writing to me regarding S. 968, the PROTECT IP Act of
> 2011. I understand your concerns.
>
>
>
> I am a cosponsor of this legislation because I believe that we must
> protect American intellectual property against foreign websites that
> infringe upon our rights. By empowering the Attorney General of the
> United States to go after foreign infringing websites, this legislation
> becomes a necessary tool to ensure that U.S. companies remain
> competitive in the world marketplace.


Hello Senator. It is very evident to me that if your writing this that
you are completely
of the content of this bill. This bill is a disgusting land grab by one
of the least deserving
industries in the US, the "intellectual property trade". This industry
is a den of thieves and
do not deserve any further protections. They sue the girl scouts for
singing Happy Birthday
and attack libraries and education providers left and right.
Additionally they rape artists
which is why artist after artist from Elvis Costello to Prince and the
Beatles have done
everything they could to get away from them. And then they sue 14 year
olds for
"piracy" while debasing women and glorifying violence. Now they want to
put Google
out of business and push them out of New York, and THAT is what this
bill is about.

Google and companies like it are the future of our economy. Time Warner
is a itty bitty nothing
that Google and can eat for lunch, and yet YOUR BILL has the tail
wagging the dog and
will destroy our economy, aside from it being morally repugnant.

Vote for this and you make many enemies of your constituency.






> I recognize that there are
> technical concerns with the enforcement of this bill that need to be
> addressed.

The bill MUST BE SCRAPPED.


> I am committed to working with my colleagues in the United
> States Senate to ensure that this legislation protects the
> Constitutional rights of Americans and does not stifle lawful free
> speech or innovation on the internet.
>

On nonsense. The record companies and movie industry has paid you and
"Chuck"
Schumer a huge sum of money for this bill, and I consider that a bribe.

Ruben
>
>
> Thank you again for writing to express your concerns, and I hope that
> you keep in touch with my office regarding future legislation. For more
> information on this and other important issues, please visit my website
> at http://gillibrand.senate.gov
> > gillibrand-iq&crop=15236.16113086.8673002.9265010&redirect=http%3a%2f%2f
> gillibrand.senate.gov> and sign up for my e-newsletter.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Kirsten E. Gillibrand
> United States Senator
>
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On 11/18/2011 04:45 PM, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> November 18, 2011
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Ruben,
>
>
>
> Thank you for writing to me regarding S. 968, the PROTECT IP Act of
> 2011. I understand your concerns.
>
>
>
> I am a cosponsor of this legislation because I believe that we must
> protect American intellectual property against foreign websites that
> infringe upon our rights. By empowering the Attorney General of the
> United States to go after foreign infringing websites, this legislation
> becomes a necessary tool to ensure that U.S. companies remain
> competitive in the world marketplace.


Hello Senator. It is very evident to me that if your writing this that
you are completely
of the content of this bill. This bill is a disgusting land grab by one
of the least deserving
industries in the US, the "intellectual property trade". This industry
is a den of thieves and
do not deserve any further protections. They sue the girl scouts for
singing Happy Birthday
and attack libraries and education providers left and right.
Additionally they rape artists
which is why artist after artist from Elvis Costello to Prince and the
Beatles have done
everything they could to get away from them. And then they sue 14 year
olds for
"piracy" while debasing women and glorifying violence. Now they want to
put Google
out of business and push them out of New York, and THAT is what this
bill is about.

Google and companies like it are the future of our economy. Time Warner
is a itty bitty nothing
that Google and can eat for lunch, and yet YOUR BILL has the tail
wagging the dog and
will destroy our economy, aside from it being morally repugnant.

Vote for this and you make many enemies of your constituency.






> I recognize that there are
> technical concerns with the enforcement of this bill that need to be
> addressed.

The bill MUST BE SCRAPPED.


> I am committed to working with my colleagues in the United
> States Senate to ensure that this legislation protects the
> Constitutional rights of Americans and does not stifle lawful free
> speech or innovation on the internet.
>

On nonsense. The record companies and movie industry has paid you and
"Chuck"
Schumer a huge sum of money for this bill, and I consider that a bribe.

Ruben
>
>
> Thank you again for writing to express your concerns, and I hope that
> you keep in touch with my office regarding future legislation. For more
> information on this and other important issues, please visit my website
> at http://gillibrand.senate.gov
> <https://iqs3.solutions.lmit.com/iqextranet/iqClickTrk.aspx?&cid=quorum_
>
gillibrand-iq&crop=15236.16113086.8673002.9265010&redirect=http%3a%2f%2f
> gillibrand.senate.gov> and sign up for my e-newsletter.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Kirsten E. Gillibrand
> United States Senator
>
>
> <https://iqs3.solutions.lmit.com/iqextranet/Customers/quorum_gillibrand-
>
iq/iqtrk.gif?crop=15236.16113086.8673002.9265010>
>
>





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  2. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Killing the Fucking Internet but GOOD part
  3. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] A Party of Pirates!
  4. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars - Killing Culture?
  5. 2011-11-01 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of NYLUG the corporation! (everyone is eligible, but hurry!)]
  6. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  7. 2011-11-01 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  8. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  9. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  10. 2011-11-01 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  11. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: [nylug-announce] Become a Director of
  12. 2011-11-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Congressional Response - Killing the internet II
  13. 2011-11-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  14. 2011-11-06 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  15. 2011-11-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  16. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  17. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  18. 2011-11-07 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  19. 2011-11-07 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  20. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  21. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  22. 2011-11-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  23. 2011-11-07 Michael L Richardson <mlr52-at-michaellrichardson.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  24. 2011-11-08 Ruben Safir <ceo.brooklyn-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  25. 2011-11-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  26. 2011-11-09 Redpill <redpill-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  27. 2011-11-09 Redpill <redpill-at-rcn.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  28. 2011-11-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  29. 2011-11-11 Contrarian <adrba-at-nyct.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  30. 2011-11-13 adrba-at-nyct.net Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  31. 2011-11-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  32. 2011-11-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: AMD A43300M Chips and Linux]
  33. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars heat up
  34. 2011-11-16 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Copyright Wars heat up
  35. 2011-11-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  36. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Copyright Wars heat up
  37. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Copyright Wars heat up
  38. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  39. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  40. 2011-11-16 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  41. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  42. 2011-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  43. 2011-11-17 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [nylug-talk] NYLUG for the Few and Not You
  44. 2011-11-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Not Right
  45. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  46. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  47. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  48. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  49. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Installfest this Sunday
  50. 2011-11-18 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  51. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  52. 2011-11-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] Incorporation update.]
  53. 2011-11-18 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  54. 2011-11-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  55. 2011-11-21 Robert Menes <viewtiful.icchan-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  56. 2011-11-21 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Something that might be interesting to learn
  57. 2011-11-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] IDE drive reading
  58. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Fwd: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  59. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  60. 2011-11-27 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  61. 2011-11-27 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  62. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Reply from Senator Gillibrand
  63. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good Act
  64. 2011-11-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: [nylug-talk] The Kill the Fucking Internet but Good Act

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