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MESSAGE
DATE 2016-11-16
FROM Rick Moen
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):

> How many times were you beaten up by blacks in the hood Rick? Ever had
> your sister molested by a crowd of Black teens? Ever see a man shot is
> a race riot? Ever see crack addicts break your window when pan handling
> on Atlantic Avenue.

Please explain to me how fomenting a police riot of many thousands of
off-duty officers did anything constructive at all. If a candidate for
mayor near me did that, I'd want him immediately prosecuted and thrown
in prison, and I'd sure as hell never consider him qualified for even
dogcatcher, let alone Mayor.

I notice that you appear to have a fixation with using political power
to attack black people. Not surprising; so does Guiliani.

> Joel Berger can have all the free speech he wants, but NYC doesn't have
> to pay for it.

I'm _still_ not stupid, Ruben. To repeat, Guiliani's abuse of the
mayoral office did _not_ consist of his trying to cut off NYC funding of
Prof. Joel Berger, as there was _no_ NYC funding of Prof. Joel Berger.

Guiliani's aides called NYU on his behalf to threaten cutoff of city
funding for an unrelated program unless NYU fired Prof. Berger from
_its_ payroll.

Read that again and again, until you understand it -- because evidently
you are having severe reading-comprehension problems.


> You you failed to mention in your little diatribe against the Mayor is
> that those "racist" cops, or are you calling them pigs this week, they
> were no more or less racist then the black community which was
> plunging NYC into Dante's inferno and would hunt down and beat white
> people anywhere they could find them.

1. Do I have to teach you your NYC history, now? He wasn't the Mayor.
He was a candidate for Mayor.
2. I'm sorry, but are you seriously suggesting that inciting a police
riot is justified by some other people being racist? Or are you
back to imagining that I've suddenly become stupid?


> And you expect the police to be not racist in this situation, because
> you've never lived in a truly interracial community so your not aware
> what it is like when you have a low grade war going on throughout your
> childhood, or to be beat up for the crime of being White on Pitkin Avenue.

Actually, I expect an alleged leader like candidate Guiliani to not
deliberately incite the police to riot, which is clearly a premeditated
criminal act, and the very opposite of leadership.


> ...the Guilani miracle, and it was a fucking miracle, literally saved NYC.

Actually, we discussed this a couple of years ago on this mailing list.
Mayor Giuliani and Police Commissioner Bratton's escalation of
aggressive policing had nothing to do with the sharp decline in crime
rates, which started dropping years before the beginning of his
mayoralty, and was part of a broader trend also seen in Chicago, San
Diego, Miami and other cities.

And the root cause of that nationwide decline in crime rates starting
around 1990 was conclusively tracked down, as we discussed, by maverick
economics authors Steven Leavitt and Stephen Dubner. To refresh your
memory:

> The failure to enforce the Broken Windows Policy, which is
> completely different, came straight from the top....

The 'Broken Windows' metaphor is straight from the 1982 article of that
name by social scientists James Q. Wilson and George L. Kelling, leading
to a metric tonne of rhetoric including the metaphor's non-sequitur
invocation under your favourite mayor Mr. Guiliani starting 1993, to
justify (among other things) stop-and-frisk in various targeted parts of
NYC.

Lots of people including you claim City Hall's multifaceted Broken
Windows Policy that claimed to be following Wilson and Kelling's logic
(though often they were not) credited Mayor Guiliani with causing the
1990s' falloff in crime.

Guess what? That's provably _not_ what caused the 1990s falloff.
Conservative economist Steven Leavitt and journalist Stephen Dubner
proved through process of logical elimination that it was the
aftereffects of Roe v. Wade in the early 1970s. The young adults who
would have been the core of a continuing crime wave in the 1990s weren't
born at all starting in 1973 because of freer access to legal abortion.

This is heavily covered in Leavitt and Dubner's two books, but
adequately addressed here:
http://freakonomics.com/2005/05/15/abortion-and-crime-who-should-you-believe/

The two of them, FWIW, powerfully offended ideologues on both the left
and the right. Right-wingers were offended by the notion that various
strenuous law'n'order measures actually didn't work at all.
Left-wingers were offended by the notion that socially marginal people
often grow up to be criminals.

Making people angry is not the same as making a valid argument, but it's
somehow satisfying that Leavitt and Dubner, by making an airtight
scientific argument, managed to make enemies of two equal and opposite
camps of ideologues.

Anyway: Broken Windows Policy in NYC? Snake-oil as stated.
Pseudo-science.

You're welcome to dislike that fact. Go right ahead. You know you want
to.



> You should kiss his ass and drop in awe of a true hero.

Why was this true hero being paid, a couple of years ago, by a Marxist
Iranian terrorist group that helped murder American citizens in the 1970s and
launch an attack on U.S. soil in 1992 (NYC, see
http://www.nytimes.com/1992/04/06/world/iran-rebels-hit-missions-in-10-nations.html),
to advocate on its behalf when the State Department (correctly)
designated it as a terrorist group?

A Treasury Department investigation in 2012 found that Mujahideen-e
Khalq (MEK) had been funneling money to a list of U.S. politicians,
including Giuliani, in violation of laws against Americans receiving
money from designated terrorist organizations.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2016/11/15/giuliani-was-paid-advocate-for-shady-iranian-dissident-group/

(John Bolton got some of that terrorist money, it appears. Well, well.)

Why did Giuliani's law firm White and Case do work while he was there
for Saddam Hussein, terrorist Abu Nidal, a Saudi bank linked to drug
cartels, and an Italian company that provided “expertise” for Gaddifi’s
chemical weapon program?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/12/10/early-firm-work-ties-giul_n_76098.html

Why did Giuliani's law firm Bracewell & Giuliani do work while he was
there as a main partner for USA enemy Hugo Chávez's pet oil company
Citgo Petroleum?

Why did this true hero work as a consultant for a Serbian party
(Progressive Party) that condemns and opposes US involvement in the
Balkans?
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304331204577356001702540714

Why does this true hero endorse use of torture by our armed forces?
https://thinkprogress.org/audience-applauds-as-giuliani-tancredo-endorse-waterboarding-torture-8754b99d8b41




> If Joel Berger wants free speech, let him get a magic marker....

Prof. Joel Berger _did_ have free speech. It's called the First
Amendment, and you might have heard of it even in whatever goddamned
banana republic _you're_ from. He wrote an op-ed for the _New York
Times_, and they published it. Done and done.

Mayor Rudy Punk-Ass Giuliani decided he didn't like what Prof. Berger
said, so, rather than doing the honorable thing of writing his own
damned editorial, he delegated to his aides -- because he doesn't even
do his own dirty work -- the shameful job of trying to pressure NY into
firing Prof. Berger.

This is of course chickenshit behavior, and shameful. It turns out that
this is classic Giuliani, a vindictive and petty little man who has no
scruples.


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  84. 2016-11-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
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  92. 2016-11-14 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  93. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  94. 2016-11-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  95. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  96. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Identity Politics in the news
  97. 2016-11-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  98. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  99. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] DRM on trial
  100. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  101. 2016-11-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  102. 2016-11-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  103. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  104. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  105. 2016-11-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  106. 2016-11-15 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  107. 2016-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] missing original pics
  108. 2016-11-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  109. 2016-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  110. 2016-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] more political nonsense
  111. 2016-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] more gibberish
  112. 2016-11-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] more political nonsense
  113. 2016-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  114. 2016-11-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  115. 2016-11-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] I'm sure it's a coincidence, part n+1
  116. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] truly incredible
  117. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] college watch
  118. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] college watch
  119. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trump's anti-semetism
  120. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trump's anti-semetism
  121. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trump's anti-semetism
  122. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trump's anti-semetism
  123. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trump's anti-semetism
  124. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trump's anti-semetism
  125. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Berkley and Left wing anti-semetism
  126. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Berkley Liberal anti-semetism
  127. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Remember you can trust the left leaning politicians
  128. 2016-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] more political nonsense
  129. 2016-11-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trump's anti-semetism
  130. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] the New Yorker is so stupid
  131. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Remember you can trust the left leaning
  132. 2016-11-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the New Yorker is so stupid
  133. 2016-11-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Endorsement
  134. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the New Yorker is so stupid
  135. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] 4 more years
  136. 2016-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] C++ Workshop Announcement
  137. 2016-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Call For Proposals/Papers - 39th Annual
  138. 2016-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] the radical islamic bigots of the Democratic Party
  139. 2016-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Radical Trump
  140. 2016-11-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the radical islamic bigots of the Democratic
  141. 2016-11-15 ruben safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: PNG Coding
  142. 2016-11-15 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Social Meeting "Eight Days After" Wed Nov 16
  143. 2016-11-13 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Social Meeting "Eight Days After" Wed Nov 16
  144. 2016-11-17 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Social Meeting "Eight Days After" Wed Nov 16 |
  145. 2016-11-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Social Meeting "Eight Days After" Wed Nov 16
  146. 2016-11-17 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the radical islamic bigots of the Democratic
  147. 2016-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] at K&R now
  148. 2016-11-17 Miguel Moreno-Azanza <mmazanza-at-fct.unl.pt> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [dinosaur] VI Symposium on Dinosaur Eggs and Babies
  149. 2016-11-17 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the radical islamic bigots of the Democratic
  150. 2016-11-17 mrbrklyn <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Open Sicience
  151. 2016-11-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] at K&R now
  152. 2016-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] vanishing independence
  153. 2016-11-18 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the radical islamic bigots of the Democratic
  154. 2016-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the radical islamic bigots of the Democratic
  155. 2016-11-17 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Social Meeting "Eight Days After" Wed Nov 16 |
  156. 2016-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Some time off ....
  157. 2016-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Handing Syria to Iran is all the rage
  158. 2016-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [Perlweekly] #278 - MOAR Books
  159. 2016-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] look what I found
  160. 2016-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Iraqi Christians and Muslims
  161. 2016-11-21 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] where are you tonight? | | y'all are doing C++
  162. 2016-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [dinosaur] Eoconfuciusornis feather keratin
  163. 2016-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] not good trump news and network neutrality
  164. 2016-11-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] not good trump news and network neutrality
  165. 2016-11-21 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [YAPC::NA Announce] Save the Date! The Perl
  166. 2016-11-23 From: =?utf-8?Q?Torah=20Educational=20Software=20=28TES=29?= Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Bar_Ilan_Agudah_Convention_Promo_+_Spec?=
  167. 2016-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] digital dinosaur scan library at NIH
  168. 2016-11-18 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?JP_11/18/16=3A_ADL=E2=80=99s_Greenblatt?=
  169. 2016-11-18 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?JP_11/18/16=3A_ADL=E2=80=99s_Greenblatt?=
  170. 2016-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Happy Thanksgiving from your patriots in Brooklyn
  171. 2016-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS]
  172. 2016-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS]
  173. 2016-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] great research news for big data
  174. 2016-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Snowden on political change and privacy
  175. 2016-11-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] JP 11/18/16: ADL???s Greenblatt Steps Back on
  176. 2016-11-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS]
  177. 2016-11-25 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS]
  178. 2016-11-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] JP 11/18/16: ADL???s Greenblatt Steps Back on
  179. 2016-11-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] no - your wrong
  180. 2016-11-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] no - your wrong
  181. 2016-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fitch etc
  182. 2016-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fitch etc
  183. 2016-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] ADL is toast
  184. 2016-11-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] ADL is toast
  185. 2016-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] 130 year old feathers analysis
  186. 2016-11-27 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: ACM/SPEC ICPE 2017 - Call for Workshop
  187. 2016-11-27 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: ACM/SPEC ICPE 2017 - Call for Tutorial
  188. 2016-11-27 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Compiler positions available for week ending
  189. 2016-11-27 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Call for Contributions - Ada User Journal (AUJ)
  190. 2016-11-27 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: CfP 22nd Conf. Reliable Software Technologies,
  191. 2016-11-27 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: HOPL (History of Programming Languages)
  192. 2016-11-27 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: ACM/SPEC ICPE 2017 - Call for Work in Progress
  193. 2016-11-27 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Tiny Compiler in many languages at
  194. 2016-11-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Bannon Bio
  195. 2016-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ice Skating Holiday
  196. 2016-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ma Bell
  197. 2016-11-28 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ma Bell
  198. 2016-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ma Bell
  199. 2016-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ma Bell
  200. 2016-11-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux phones
  201. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Look at this exciting output by my test program
  202. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [Learn] Quantum Entanglement
  203. 2016-11-29 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ma Bell | | why not just use your cell phone ?
  204. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ma Bell | | why not just use your cell phone ?
  205. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The Death of PBS
  206. 2016-11-28 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #279 - Unsung (But Totally Awesome)
  207. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] no - your wrong
  208. 2016-11-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] no - your wrong
  209. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] no - your wrong
  210. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [Learn] witmer lab ohio and 3d imaging
  211. 2016-11-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] no - your wrong
  212. 2016-11-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] no - your wrong
  213. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Learn] Look at this exciting output by my test
  214. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Learn] Look at this exciting output by my test
  215. 2016-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] witmer lab ohio and 3d imaging
  216. 2016-11-30 From: "Jewish Community Relations Council of NY" Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] An Evening of Israeli Art & Judaica,
  217. 2016-11-19 Dirk Jagdmann <doj-at-cubic.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Where to download embperl 2.5?

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