Fri Apr 26 23:19:55 2024
EVENTS
 FREE
SOFTWARE
INSTITUTE

POLITICS
JOBS
MEMBERS'
CORNER

MAILING
LIST

NYLXS Mailing Lists and Archives
NYLXS Members have a lot to say and share but we don't keep many secrets. Join the Hangout Mailing List and say your peice.

DATE 2020-11-01

HANGOUT

2024-04-26 | 2024-03-26 | 2024-02-26 | 2024-01-26 | 2023-12-26 | 2023-11-26 | 2023-10-26 | 2023-09-26 | 2023-08-26 | 2023-07-26 | 2023-06-26 | 2023-05-26 | 2023-04-26 | 2023-03-26 | 2023-02-26 | 2023-01-26 | 2022-12-26 | 2022-11-26 | 2022-10-26 | 2022-09-26 | 2022-08-26 | 2022-07-26 | 2022-06-26 | 2022-05-26 | 2022-04-26 | 2022-03-26 | 2022-02-26 | 2022-01-26 | 2021-12-26 | 2021-11-26 | 2021-10-26 | 2021-09-26 | 2021-08-26 | 2021-07-26 | 2021-06-26 | 2021-05-26 | 2021-04-26 | 2021-03-26 | 2021-02-26 | 2021-01-26 | 2020-12-26 | 2020-11-26 | 2020-10-26 | 2020-09-26 | 2020-08-26 | 2020-07-26 | 2020-06-26 | 2020-05-26 | 2020-04-26 | 2020-03-26 | 2020-02-26 | 2020-01-26 | 2019-12-26 | 2019-11-26 | 2019-10-26 | 2019-09-26 | 2019-08-26 | 2019-07-26 | 2019-06-26 | 2019-05-26 | 2019-04-26 | 2019-03-26 | 2019-02-26 | 2019-01-26 | 2018-12-26 | 2018-11-26 | 2018-10-26 | 2018-09-26 | 2018-08-26 | 2018-07-26 | 2018-06-26 | 2018-05-26 | 2018-04-26 | 2018-03-26 | 2018-02-26 | 2018-01-26 | 2017-12-26 | 2017-11-26 | 2017-10-26 | 2017-09-26 | 2017-08-26 | 2017-07-26 | 2017-06-26 | 2017-05-26 | 2017-04-26 | 2017-03-26 | 2017-02-26 | 2017-01-26 | 2016-12-26 | 2016-11-26 | 2016-10-26 | 2016-09-26 | 2016-08-26 | 2016-07-26 | 2016-06-26 | 2016-05-26 | 2016-04-26 | 2016-03-26 | 2016-02-26 | 2016-01-26 | 2015-12-26 | 2015-11-26 | 2015-10-26 | 2015-09-26 | 2015-08-26 | 2015-07-26 | 2015-06-26 | 2015-05-26 | 2015-04-26 | 2015-03-26 | 2015-02-26 | 2015-01-26 | 2014-12-26 | 2014-11-26 | 2014-10-26 | 2014-09-26 | 2014-08-26 | 2014-07-26 | 2014-06-26 | 2014-05-26 | 2014-04-26 | 2014-03-26 | 2014-02-26 | 2014-01-26 | 2013-12-26 | 2013-11-26 | 2013-10-26 | 2013-09-26 | 2013-08-26 | 2013-07-26 | 2013-06-26 | 2013-05-26 | 2013-04-26 | 2013-03-26 | 2013-02-26 | 2013-01-26 | 2012-12-26 | 2012-11-26 | 2012-10-26 | 2012-09-26 | 2012-08-26 | 2012-07-26 | 2012-06-26 | 2012-05-26 | 2012-04-26 | 2012-03-26 | 2012-02-26 | 2012-01-26 | 2011-12-26 | 2011-11-26 | 2011-10-26 | 2011-09-26 | 2011-08-26 | 2011-07-26 | 2011-06-26 | 2011-05-26 | 2011-04-26 | 2011-03-26 | 2011-02-26 | 2011-01-26 | 2010-12-26 | 2010-11-26 | 2010-10-26 | 2010-09-26 | 2010-08-26 | 2010-07-26 | 2010-06-26 | 2010-05-26 | 2010-04-26 | 2010-03-26 | 2010-02-26 | 2010-01-26 | 2009-12-26 | 2009-11-26 | 2009-10-26 | 2009-09-26 | 2009-08-26 | 2009-07-26 | 2009-06-26 | 2009-05-26 | 2009-04-26 | 2009-03-26 | 2009-02-26 | 2009-01-26 | 2008-12-26 | 2008-11-26 | 2008-10-26 | 2008-09-26 | 2008-08-26 | 2008-07-26 | 2008-06-26 | 2008-05-26 | 2008-04-26 | 2008-03-26 | 2008-02-26 | 2008-01-26 | 2007-12-26 | 2007-11-26 | 2007-10-26 | 2007-09-26 | 2007-08-26 | 2007-07-26 | 2007-06-26 | 2007-05-26 | 2007-04-26 | 2007-03-26 | 2007-02-26 | 2007-01-26 | 2006-12-26 | 2006-11-26 | 2006-10-26 | 2006-09-26 | 2006-08-26 | 2006-07-26 | 2006-06-26 | 2006-05-26 | 2006-04-26 | 2006-03-26 | 2006-02-26 | 2006-01-26 | 2005-12-26 | 2005-11-26 | 2005-10-26 | 2005-09-26 | 2005-08-26 | 2005-07-26 | 2005-06-26 | 2005-05-26 | 2005-04-26 | 2005-03-26 | 2005-02-26 | 2005-01-26 | 2004-12-26 | 2004-11-26 | 2004-10-26 | 2004-09-26 | 2004-08-26 | 2004-07-26 | 2004-06-26 | 2004-05-26 | 2004-04-26 | 2004-03-26 | 2004-02-26 | 2004-01-26 | 2003-12-26 | 2003-11-26 | 2003-10-26 | 2003-09-26 | 2003-08-26 | 2003-07-26 | 2003-06-26 | 2003-05-26 | 2003-04-26 | 2003-03-26 | 2003-02-26 | 2003-01-26 | 2002-12-26 | 2002-11-26 | 2002-10-26 | 2002-09-26 | 2002-08-26 | 2002-07-26 | 2002-06-26 | 2002-05-26 | 2002-04-26 | 2002-03-26 | 2002-02-26 | 2002-01-26 | 2001-12-26 | 2001-11-26 | 2001-10-26 | 2001-09-26 | 2001-08-26 | 2001-07-26 | 2001-06-26 | 2001-05-26 | 2001-04-26 | 2001-03-26 | 2001-02-26 | 2001-01-26 | 2000-12-26 | 2000-11-26 | 2000-10-26 | 2000-09-26 | 2000-08-26 | 2000-07-26 | 2000-06-26 | 2000-05-26 | 2000-04-26 | 2000-03-26 | 2000-02-26 | 2000-01-26 | 1999-12-26

Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2020-11-20
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ain BnB and Communist China survalience and data
WSJ News Exclusive | Airbnb Executive Resigned Last Year Over Chinese
Request for More Data Sharing
Dustin Volz and Kirsten Grind
11-13 minutes

When it filed to go public this week, Airbnb Inc. said that its ability
to continue doing business in China is a risk factor for its brand and
profitability.

Operating in the country has sparked debate among the home-sharing
startup’s senior leadership for some time, leading a top executive to
depart abruptly last year, according to people familiar with the company.

Airbnb hired Sean Joyce, a former deputy director of the Federal Bureau
of Investigation, in May of 2019 as its first “chief trust officer,” a
role that entailed protecting users’ safety on the platform.

He resigned six months later over concerns about how the massive rental
platform shares data on millions of its users with Chinese authorities,
the people said.

Airbnb co-founder Nathan Blecharczyk, who heads the platform’s China
unit, told former trust officer Sean Joyce last year, ‘We’re not here to
promote American values.’
Photo: Akio Kon/Bloomberg News

A high-profile hire for Airbnb, Mr. Joyce grew alarmed during his tenure
that the company wasn’t being fully transparent about the data it shares
with the ruling Chinese Communist Party government, including for
Americans traveling in the country, these people say. He also was
concerned about what he viewed as Airbnb’s willingness to consider more
expansive data requests from China, the people familiar said.

Airbnb has told users since 2016 that it shares information with Chinese
authorities, according to a review of its communications. Even so, Mr.
Joyce believed most people using the platform weren’t aware of the
extent of the data shared, which included phone numbers, email addresses
and messages between users and the company, two of these people said.

Nick Papas, a spokesman for Airbnb, said the company complies with
applicable laws, regulations and requirements when responding to
requests for data, similar to Western hotel chains operating in China.

“We are committed to being transparent with our community, and clearly
disclose our data policies to all of our hosts and guests by displaying
a clear message to users when they are on the platform and through
multiple other notifications,” Mr. Papas said in a statement. The data
policies were in place before Mr. Joyce joined “and continue to this
day,” he said.

Reached by The Wall Street Journal, Mr. Joyce said he had a “difference
in values” with Airbnb. He declined to comment further.

In the summer of 2019, Chinese officials approached Airbnb with an
unwritten request for more user data, including more “real-time data,”
such as when a user first makes a reservation, said one person familiar
with the matter.

Mr. Joyce worried such data-sharing would enable Chinese government
surveillance and put members of minority ethnic groups such as repressed
Muslim-majority Uighurs at risk, that person said.

He voiced his concerns to senior executives, including in a summer 2019
meeting that included Chief Executive Brian Chesky and co-founder Nathan
Blecharczyk, who leads Airbnb’s China unit, the people familiar with the
matter said. While the executives were sympathetic to Mr. Joyce’s
concerns, one of these people said, the discussion came at a moment when
executives feared they might not be allowed to continue operating the
company’s large business in China.

“We’re not here to promote American values,” Mr. Blecharczyk told Mr.
Joyce, according to people familiar with the conversation. Mr. Joyce
resigned weeks later.

Messrs. Blecharczyk and Chesky declined to comment through a spokesman.
An Airbnb spokesman acknowledged the request from China but said the
company doesn’t share real-time data.

Airbnb’s former trust chief believed most users weren’t aware of the
extent of data shared with China, which included phone numbers, email
addresses and some messages. Beijing’s Forbidden City complex.
Photo: Andy Wong/Associated Press

Debates are under way inside many American companies over how to do
business responsibly in China, the world’s largest consumer market. The
risks are especially acute for Silicon Valley companies, U.S.
national-security officials say, due to the data tech firms collect and
Beijing’s potential interest in using that data for surveillance.

Chinese government agencies can request and monitor some data from
international and domestic companies, according to consultants and
university researchers. Hospitality companies like Airbnb are bound by
further rules and regulations, requiring them to report guest
information like traveler itineraries to law enforcement and other local
agencies, policy experts say.

Airbnb said in a recent Securities and Exchange Commission filing
related to its initial public offering, planned for next month, that it
could lose the ability to operate in China if it doesn’t comply with the
country’s data-sharing requirements. The company also cited brand and
reputational risks if it does accede to such requests or requirements there.

For U.S. companies operating in China, “nothing is black and white,
particularly when it comes to government access to data,” Samm Sacks, a
senior fellow at Yale Law School’s Paul Tsai China Center, told
lawmakers at a Senate hearing this year about data security in China.

The issue of how Americans’ data is shared with China came to the
forefront this summer, when President Trump demanded a sale of the
popular video-sharing app TikTok over concerns its Chinese parent
company, ByteDance Ltd., could give U.S. user data to Beijing.

The Trump administration has given preliminary approval for a deal with
U.S.-based Oracle Corp. TikTok has said it would never share Americans’
data with the Chinese government.

User data is “something that companies have got to get better at
safeguarding, because they [China] are accumulating more and more of
it,” John Demers, the U.S. assistant attorney general for national
security, said during a panel discussion earlier this year. “It is of
tremendous intelligence value, and tremendous value to the Chinese to
develop their artificial intelligence tools.”

The Chinese embassy in Washington, D.C., didn’t respond to a request for
comment.

The largest home-sharing platform in the U.S., San Francisco-based
Airbnb is poised to go public at the end of the year at a valuation of
roughly $30 billion, the Journal has reported.

Airbnb’s business in China has grown astronomically in recent years,
rising from several thousand listings at the end of 2014 to about
372,000 active listings in September, according to research firm AirDNA,
which tracks short-term rentals.

China growth and quality was one of seven metrics that determined
bonuses for Airbnb’s top executives in 2019, according to the company’s
recent SEC filing, along with safety on the platform and growth in its
“Homes” and “Experiences” divisions.

Biden’s China Policy: New President-Elect, Same Tensions

0:00 / 7:00

5:00

Biden’s China Policy: New President-Elect, Same Tensions

Biden’s China Policy: New President-Elect, Same Tensions
President-elect Joe Biden has sent signals that the U.S. will remain
tough on China, from trade to technology. WSJ’s Jonathan Cheng explains
the new administration’s policy approach and how China might respond.
Photo: Lintao Zhang/AP

Mr. Joyce had retired as deputy FBI director in 2013 after serving under
then-Director Robert Mueller and was leading the cybersecurity practice
at PricewaterhouseCoopers LLP before taking the job at Airbnb. He
returned to PwC after leaving Airbnb.

People who worked with him in government described him as a “boy scout”
with a rigid sense of right and wrong who wouldn’t hesitate to raise
concerns to superiors about practices he believed were unethical or
risky for national security.

While at Airbnb, Mr. Joyce opposed the Chinese government request that
the company begin providing customer data when a user books an online
reservation, rather than when they arrive at a property, one of these
people said.

That request departed from what Airbnb had shared before Mr. Joyce’s
arrival and differs from other hospitality companies’ practices,
consultants and people familiar with the matter say.

Newsletter Sign-up

Technology

A weekly digest of tech reviews, headlines, columns and your questions
answered by WSJ's Personal Tech gurus.

Airbnb tells guests and hosts in China through the booking process and
on its website that the company shares data with China, but it doesn’t
specify at what point the data collection begins, according to a review
of its public communications and alerts.

The former law-enforcement veteran believed such an arrangement could
help Chinese intelligence services better anticipate guests’ movements
and ascertain their travel itineraries and future locations, one of the
people said. He brought his concerns to Mr. Chesky and other Airbnb
executives.

Mr. Joyce believed Airbnb was on the cusp of complying with the data
request at the time of his departure, the person said. It couldn’t be
determined whether his resignation altered the company’s consideration
of sharing real-time data.

Mr. Papas, the Airbnb spokesman, said, “It is wrong to suggest that we
were about to comply with this request.” He said, “We have not and do
not share data when a booking is made,” a policy that “has been
consistent for years.”

“When we do share information,” Mr. Papas said, “we do not share the
time-stamp data that would indicate the time a booking was made.”

—Jim Oberman contributed to this article.


--
So many immigrant groups have swept through our town
that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological
proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998
http://www.mrbrklyn.com
DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002

http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.brooklyn-living.com

Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps,
but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013
_______________________________________________
Hangout mailing list
Hangout-at-nylxs.com
http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout

  1. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Why our subways and streets are overwhelmed with
  2. 2020-11-02 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #484 - What after Hacktoberfest?
  3. 2020-11-02 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trust the Political Elite
  4. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trust the Political Elite
  5. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Lebanon - a powder keg
  6. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Th Turkish Threat and the EU
  7. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Xi's Chinese threats to the US
  8. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Defunding the Police and NYC budget restraints
  9. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Defunding the Police and NYC budget
  10. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Who needs Seat Belts??
  11. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Sleep Well tonight - everythign will OK
  12. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Telsa's need for Free Software
  13. 2020-11-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Go Ringo Go
  14. 2020-11-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Join me on the Facebook Brooklyn Fishing Group :)
  15. 2020-11-03 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Happy birthday!
  16. 2020-11-03 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Guix Front End (GUI) and making it more
  17. 2020-11-02 From: "Free Software Foundation" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Software Supporter Issue 151, November 2020
  18. 2020-11-04 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Accusing Trump of dismantling the post office
  19. 2020-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Voter fraud and the wall street journal
  20. 2020-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Chinaization of the West in the advent of the
  21. 2020-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Whose Vote Counts
  22. 2020-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [EXTERNAL] Re: .swp files
  23. 2020-11-05 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF35 videos online: Find them on PeerTube and
  24. 2020-11-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The whole of the Hunter Biden scandal and the US
  25. 2020-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] So much good news to report
  26. 2020-11-07 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] steal this video
  27. 2020-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The whole of the Hunter Biden scandal and the
  28. 2020-11-05 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The whole of the Hunter Biden scandal and the
  29. 2020-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Senate still in contention - with new election
  30. 2020-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Obama Care in the Supreme Court
  31. 2020-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The immorality that our professional dipolmatic
  32. 2020-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FBI involvement in our elections..
  33. 2020-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] best analysis of the election
  34. 2020-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This is election results by Assembly Group and
  35. 2020-11-08 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] This is election results by Assembly Group and
  36. 2020-11-08 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: JP 11/8/20: AOC Calls for 'Archiving Trump
  37. 2020-11-09 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] openshot from in artix/arch
  38. 2020-11-09 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #485 - Dead or Alive
  39. 2020-11-09 Rabbinical Seminary of America/Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Launching an Exciting New Initiative!
  40. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] openshot from in artix/arch
  41. 2020-11-10 David Runge <dave-at-sleepmap.de> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] openshot from in artix/arch
  42. 2020-11-09 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] mathematical impossibilities of biden win
  43. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] openshot from in artix/arch
  44. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Deaths and politics
  45. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ripping up the economy and the shake out..
  46. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Hezbullah displomacy under Trump
  47. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Trump PAC - new phase of the post-election
  48. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] New York City on Cusp of Second Wave of Covid-19,
  49. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Collapse of downtown
  50. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Boycotting Trump Supporters
  51. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  52. 2020-11-11 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  53. 2020-11-11 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  54. 2020-11-11 Carlo den Otter via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  55. 2020-11-10 Kian Kasad via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  56. 2020-11-10 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  57. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  58. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  59. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] updates keep blowing away my
  60. 2020-11-01 cromer--- via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] aurutils artix friendly?
  61. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] openshot from in artix/arch
  62. 2020-11-10 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [dave-at-sleepmap.de: Re: openshot
  63. 2020-11-09 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] openshot from in artix/arch
  64. 2020-11-01 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] aurutils artix friendly?
  65. 2020-11-01 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] aurutils artix friendly?
  66. 2020-11-11 From: =?utf-8?Q?Zo=C3=AB_Kooyman=2C_FSF?= <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] LibrePlanet 2021: join us online on March 20 & 21
  67. 2020-11-11 Karen Perilman via Docs <docs-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] New York City on Cusp of Second Wave
  68. 2020-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] fbi politics
  69. 2020-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: New article by the GNU Education Team
  70. 2020-11-12 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions on building a linux system ?
  71. 2020-11-12 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions on building a linux system ?
  72. 2020-11-12 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions on building a linux system ?
  73. 2020-11-10 Liz Moore via Docs <docs-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] New York City on Cusp of Second Wave
  74. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions on building a linux system ?
  75. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Congradulations - Now every child is a Google
  76. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Digging in for the new normal - Invest in
  77. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] teaching to think...
  78. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Biden to put the IRS on your smalphone
  79. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Nation is going bankrupt,
  80. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Israel E-Scooter Crazy
  81. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese Threat continues
  82. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese Threat continues
  83. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese Threat continues
  84. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Continuation of Governance by executive EDICT -
  85. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The real dangers of facial recognition software
  86. 2020-11-13 Humberto Freitas <humberto.freitas310-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Setting up commissions on GNU Health
  87. 2020-11-13 Luis Falcon <falcon-at-gnuhealth.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Setting up commissions on GNU Health
  88. 2020-11-13 Humberto Freitas <humberto.freitas310-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Health] Setting up commissions on GNU Health
  89. 2020-11-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Joe_Biden=E2=80=99s_Lockdown_Lobby?=
  90. 2020-11-13 From: "Xavier B. via artix-general" <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] Was pandoc-bin dropped from
  91. 2020-11-13 Liam R E Quin <liam-at-holoweb.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] 10-bit display color depth
  92. 2020-11-13 LKH via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] 10-bit display color depth support
  93. 2020-11-01 From: "Rick Strong" <rnstrong-at-primus.ca> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] Color map is different than Color
  94. 2020-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Herb Immunity - a lot closer than they admitted
  95. 2020-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Merchant of venice - entertainment for the
  96. 2020-11-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The rise of C++
  97. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Facebook AI, China and censorship
  98. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Our Chinese Partners who we depend on for
  99. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Doing business with trators and genocidal
  100. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vacinne or No vaccine - Biden transition
  101. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese Selfidentification in the global economy
  102. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] What is a little Genocide between trading partners
  103. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] What is a little Genocide between trading
  104. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Social Pressure on Tawain is how China will treat
  105. 2020-11-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snoden on your cellphone spying
  106. 2020-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Men's rights
  107. 2020-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] I am looking for a new phone and this is what I
  108. 2020-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] I am looking for a new phone and this is what
  109. 2020-11-16 mayer ilovitz <pmamayeri-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] list of linux compatible motherboards/vendors ?
  110. 2020-11-16 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #486 - Why do we use Perl?
  111. 2020-11-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list of linux compatible motherboards/vendors
  112. 2020-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] list of linux compatible motherboards/vendors
  113. 2020-11-16 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] tux phones
  114. 2020-11-16 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fw: Carding | | PHOTO MILITARY ID REFUSED | | The
  115. 2020-11-16 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fw: Beware ATF Form 4473 [ FYI ]
  116. 2020-11-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fw: Carding | | PHOTO MILITARY ID REFUSED | |
  117. 2020-11-17 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fw: Carding | | PHOTO MILITARY ID REFUSED | |
  118. 2020-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Radio Show
  119. 2020-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snoden on data collection
  120. 2020-11-17 NYOUG <execdir-at-nyoug.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Upcoming Events for Oracle Professionals
  121. 2020-11-17 Liz Moore <lizmoorerph-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snoden on data collection
  122. 2020-11-17 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snoden on data collection
  123. 2020-11-17 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Snoden on data collection
  124. 2020-11-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] SuSE going IPO
  125. 2020-11-17 From: "John Sullivan, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Support the free software journey
  126. 2020-11-18 From: "Pat Schloss" <pdschloss-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [mothur] Code Club series and upcoming mothur and
  127. 2020-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] retail craziness and target
  128. 2020-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] tracking waves through the economy and it DOES
  129. 2020-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] More of the same puts our healthcare system at
  130. 2020-11-18 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Passport needed to enter Pennsylvania | | *** The
  131. 2020-11-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Abandoning our children
  132. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Virus resolution just not soon enough - but on a
  133. 2020-11-18 Rabbinical Seminary of America/Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Please Join Our Sefer Torah / Dinner Campaign.
  134. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccine development breakthroughs and high Tech
  135. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccine drag out by Faucci
  136. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Elli Lilly FDA citations
  137. 2020-11-19 George Moskowitz MD <yehudazev-at-gmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: A True Story of the invisible but dangerous
  138. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Masking Mandates
  139. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Masking Mandates Part II
  140. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] Masking Mandates Part III
  141. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] previous radio show
  142. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] vaccines politics and WHO
  143. 2020-11-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Vaccines in History
  144. 2020-11-19 From: "Canarsie Courier" <emailsentby-at-icontactmail.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Inside This Week's Edition of the Canarsie Courier
  145. 2020-11-20 From: "Greg Farough, DbD" <info-at-defectivebydesign.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FSF Giving Guide: It's the thought that counts,
  146. 2020-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] COVID-19 Test kit problems
  147. 2020-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] lockdowns killed Macy's, and with that,
  148. 2020-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] drug prices and medical economics
  149. 2020-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] vaccine cheat sheet
  150. 2020-11-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Ain BnB and Communist China survalience and data
  151. 2020-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] openshot from in artix/arch
  152. 2020-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] openshot from in artix/arch
  153. 2020-11-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] openshot from in artix/arch
  154. 2020-11-22 Gene Heskett <gheskett-at-shentel.net> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is 25 yo
  155. 2020-11-21 Tom via gimp-user-list <gimp-user-list-at-gnome.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Gimp-user] GIMP is 25 yo
  156. 2020-11-23 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #487 - CPAN Dashboard explained
  157. 2020-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Immunology and COVID-19 from Ariel U - tomorrow
  158. 2020-11-23 From: =?utf-8?Q?Ludovic_Court=C3=A8s?= <ludo-at-gnu.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] GNU Guix 1.2.0 released
  159. 2020-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: Call for Distinguished Lecturers
  160. 2020-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fwd: GnuPG 2.2.25 released
  161. 2020-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Applied Math R and Stats etc
  162. 2020-11-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] cable will screw you more this coming year
  163. 2020-11-23 From: "Ruben Rodriguez, FSF" <info-at-fsf.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Moving into the future with the FSF tech team
  164. 2020-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Student Loan relief, and governance by fiat..
  165. 2020-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] 2001 - just in case anyone missed this
  166. 2020-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese apps continue to collect your personal
  167. 2020-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] Chinese apps continue to collect your
  168. 2020-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] FWIW - Trump continues to deliver on his promises
  169. 2020-11-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The New Public Enemy Number One
  170. 2020-11-25 aviva <aviva-at-gmx.us> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] The New Public Enemy Number One
  171. 2020-11-26 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Fw: Washington Times: Biden won thousands of
  172. 2020-11-26 From: "S." <sman356-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions on building a linux system ?
  173. 2020-11-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] suggestions on building a linux system ?
  174. 2020-11-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] a small amount of COVID-19 justice
  175. 2020-11-29 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] building python-pymupdf from
  176. 2020-11-29 jc_gargma via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] generating zstd compress
  177. 2020-11-28 jc_gargma via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] generating zstd compress
  178. 2020-11-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] generating zstd compress
  179. 2020-11-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] generating zstd compress initrd
  180. 2020-11-28 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] building python-pymupdf from AUR
  181. 2020-11-29 Ruben Safir via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] building python-pymupdf from
  182. 2020-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The death of our freedom to travel (like it is in
  183. 2020-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] the real end of the free world... this is it..
  184. 2020-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Free Snowden now...
  185. 2020-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The effects of industiral shutdown on the
  186. 2020-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ Docs ] the real end of the free world...
  187. 2020-11-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Dovid and Itka Safir fighting for Social justice
  188. 2020-11-29 Rabbinical Seminary of America/Yeshiva Chofetz Chaim Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Please Join Our Sefer Torah / Dinner Campaign.
  189. 2020-11-29 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsactl restore not
  190. 2020-11-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Supreme Court and the Census - the REAL
  191. 2020-11-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] The Voting system has fraud baked in...
  192. 2020-11-30 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #488 - Advent Calendar 2020
  193. 2020-11-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] Can folks see this image?
  194. 2020-11-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [artix-gen] python2-pillow
  195. 2020-11-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsactl restore not
  196. 2020-11-30 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsactl restore not
  197. 2020-11-30 Javier via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsactl restore not
  198. 2020-11-30 Dudemanguy via artix-general <artix-general-at-artixlinux.org> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] [s6] alsactl restore not
  199. 2020-11-17 Joe Orton <jorton-at-apache.org> Subject: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ANNOUNCE] libapreq2-2.15 Released
  200. 2020-11-17 From: "Edward J. Sabol" <edwardjsabol-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [ANNOUNCE] libapreq2-2.15 Released

NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!