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I have been pushing for Linux on the server side, but recently they brought in a macintosh consulting firm for a quote. They of course are talking up the benefits of using Mac OS X Server over using Linux. Compatibility and integration into the network being one of the benefits they keep talking about. The server will need: Large Raid drive file server, e-mail server, web server, DNS, LDAP. The client side needs to remain macintosh-based (at least for now). I don't have any experience with OS X and thus find it difficult to make a case against it, besides the obvious advantage of "freedom" in a Linux/Open Source solution. Any thoughts and wisdom would be greatly appreciated. Kevin ____________________________ New Yorker Free Software Users Scene Fair Use - because it's either fair use or useless.... 2002-09-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Fair use website request 2002-09-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Log Analysist 2002-09-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Log Analysist 2002-09-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Re: [hangout] Log Analysist 2002-09-01 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Log Analysist 2002-09-01 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Re: [hangout] Radio Show on Sunday.. 2002-09-01 Matthew Hirsch <mph-at-dorsai.org> Subject: [hangout] Fair use website request 2002-09-01 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Log Analysist 2002-09-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: ASHA office (fwd) 2002-09-01 Billy <billy-at-dadadada.net> Subject: [hangout] Re: membership Web Space 2002-09-01 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [dclug] Department of Commerce Report 2002-09-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] One more things 2002-09-02 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Septmebr Classes Booklet - Please Distribute 2002-09-02 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] YDL and Gimp 2002-09-02 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] [dyfet-at-ostel.com: current speech] 2002-09-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] Re: ASHA office (fwd) 2002-09-03 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] revised mets tickets 2002-09-03 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] YDL and Gimp 2002-09-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] YDL and Gimp 2002-09-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] YDL and Gimp 2002-09-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Review copy of speech... [dyfet-at-ostel.com] 2002-09-03 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] NYC - Symbol of Strength? 2002-09-03 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Open Office Training Tonight 2002-09-03 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Perl 2 Canceled Tonight 2002-09-03 David Sugar <dyfet-at-ostel.com> Subject: [hangout] This week I will be in Macedonia... 2002-09-03 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Subject: [hangout] [Fwd: Cornell Universiot and the DMCA] 2002-09-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> RE: [hangout] No more Journal 2002-09-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] No more Journal 2002-09-04 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] No more Journal 2002-09-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Come One, Come All: An Open Invitation 2002-09-04 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] No more Journal 2002-09-04 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Venezuela & Software Libre 2002-09-05 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Unix 2 Class Tonight 2002-09-06 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] asha office 2002-09-06 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Dev null route 2002-09-06 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] asha office 2002-09-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] ALT-Q Ellis Island (fwd) 2002-09-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Asha Move Tomorrow 2002-09-08 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [hangout] Attributed Ellis Island and Copyright Fraud Story by Yale Kohen 2002-09-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] http://nationaljournal.com/about/njweekly/stories/2002/0906nj1.htm 2002-09-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Phikips - ther Anti_DRM Company 2002-09-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Radio Show 2002-09-08 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Article for you... 2002-09-08 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Subject: [hangout] ydl, gimp and the solution 2002-09-09 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Asha office 2002-09-09 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: asha office? 2002-09-10 Joe Villari <joev_nylxs-at-pipeline.com> Re: [hangout] Mac OS X Server versus Linux Server 2002-09-10 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Desktop: GNU/Linux outpaces Mac OSX 2002-09-10 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Mac OS X Server versus Linux Server 2002-09-10 From: "Joseph A. Maffia" <jam-at-rm-cpa.com> Subject: [hangout] mission statement 2002-09-11 From: "Kevin Milani" <news-at-impact-it.net> RE: [hangout] Mac OS X Server versus Linux Server 2002-09-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] 2002-09-11 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] A Press Agent Recommendation 2002-09-11 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> Subject: [hangout] LaGuardia update 2002-09-12 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Re: [hangout] The latest agenda for LaGuardia demo 2002-09-12 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] Revised LaGuardia Demo program, version 0912-b 2002-09-12 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] The latest agenda for LaGuardia demo 2002-09-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Linux 1 and Perl 1 Classes, class on the Gimp 2002-09-17 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] September Journal 2002-09-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] xmlns I dont see the point 2002-09-19 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: [nylug-talk] flexible virtual hosting? 2002-09-20 Jonathan Bober <jwb235-at-nyu.edu> Re: [hangout] Now, it's getting scary, and FAST 2002-09-20 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] C program 2002-09-20 Ray Connolly <RConnolly-at-natsource.com> Subject: [hangout] Now, it's getting scary, and FAST 2002-09-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Here is a howto meet women while using GNU/Linux 2002-09-21 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Journal Article - One Submittions 2002-09-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] CUNY Demo 2002-09-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] gimp 1.3 2002-09-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] New Business Initiatives 2002-09-22 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Re: Fw: perl scripts 2002-09-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Windows XP Shows the Direction Microsoft is Going 2002-09-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Ari Jort Presenting tonight 2002-09-23 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] DMCA Enforcers 2002-09-23 From: "Inker, Evan" <EInker-at-gam.com> Subject: [hangout] OpenSSL Gets a Gift from SUN (Or maybe not?) - READ THE SUN AGREE 2002-09-23 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> Subject: [hangout] what information to take 2002-09-24 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> RE: [hangout] Consulting Business Initiative 2002-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Consulting Business Initiative 2002-09-24 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] Consulting Business Initiative 2002-09-24 From: "Dimitar Georgievski" <dimitarg-at-websyn.com> RE: [hangout] CUNY Demo 2002-09-24 Michael Richardson <MRICHARDSON-at-abc.state.ny.us> RE: [hangout] CUNY Demo 2002-09-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] CUNY Demo 2002-09-24 From: "Kevin Milani" <news-at-impact-it.net> Subject: [hangout] Consulting Business Initiative 2002-09-25 Kevin Milani <news-at-impact-it.net> Re: [hangout] Consulting Business Initiative 2002-09-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [hangout] marketing initiative 2002-09-25 From: "Ruben Safir" <ruben-at-rm-cpa.com> Re: [hangout] Need a volunteer to do a session on reliability, support, and security 2002-09-25 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Fwd: Re: Hebrew Translation Effort [metalab-at-externe.net] 2002-09-25 From: "Phil Glaser" <StillSmallVoice-at-directvinternet.com> Subject: [hangout] Need a volunteer to do a session on reliability, support, and security 2002-09-25 Jay Sulzberger <jays-at-panix.com> Subject: [wwwac] Re: [hangout] Re: berman bill (fwd) 2002-09-26 marco <marco4linux-at-earthlink.net> Subject: [hangout] Board Meeting: My wife's first solo show 2002-09-27 Ruben I Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [hangout] Linux on the Desktop in Business NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! 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