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DATE 2015-12-20
FROM Rick Moen
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [hangout] Re: [fairuse-discuss] [nyc-geeks]
On Sun, 5 May 2002, Jonathan Bober wrote:

> What is nyc-geeks?
>
> Google immediately gives www.nyc-geeks.org, but the "host could not
> be found." Is this a temporary thing or is there another URL?

It's depressing that nobody seems to know how to use whois and dig
(or even whois and nslookup) as basic tools to investigate fundamental
reasons _why_ hosts cannot be reached. More on that in a minute:

Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com):

> On 05/05/2002 02:14 AM, Alan Wiess wrote:
> >
> > They are Geeks in NYC
> > Duh..
>
> no more linuxfreemail.com

Well, the domain expired. Both domains did. The owners failed to
renew.


{sigh}


Let's go through this again.


Point 1: Start with WHOIS data.

First stop in investigating these matters is to use /usr/bin/whois or
(a similar tool) /usr/bin/jwhois, to check the domain record. Note that
some domains (such as .au) return uselessly limited information over the
public WHOIS channel, reportedly to protect the privacy of domain
owners. (WHOIS is an IANA-defined public information service offered
over 43/tcp, as specified in RFC 3912.) Some other TLDs (top-level
domains) don't have public WHOIS service at all. Yet other TLDs offer
only whois data via NOC Web sites, so they can shovel advertising at
querents. /usr/bin/jwhois can usually query those via its ability to
operate over HTTP.

Anyway, selected WHOIS data for the two domains:

1 of 2:

$ whois nyc-geeks.org
[...]
WHOIS Server:
Referral URL: http://www.bluerazor.com
Updated Date: 2015-08-12T11:07:29Z
Creation Date: 2006-08-11T18:51:31Z
Registry Expiry Date: 2016-08-11T18:51:31Z
Sponsoring Registrar: Blue Razor Domains, LLC
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 612

As the WHOIS service has evolved through Internet bureaucratic changes
and politics (DARPA, DARPA NIC, InterNIC, ICANN, IETF), some queries are
treated centrally by a WHOIS server that knows all about the namespace
-- the 'thick' server model, while others use a method of referring/delegating
queries for fractions of the namespace -- the 'thin' server model used
by, e.g., .org . In this case, the top-level WHOIS server for .org
delegated my query to a WHOIS server run by domain registrar Blue Razor
Domains.


Point 2: The date information in WHOIS can be misleading, and must be
interpreted skeptically.

The three 'Date' lines are where things become misleading, and this is
where many observers fool themselves. As the domain registrar business
has evolved, registrars have taken steps to _monetise expiring domains_,
and one of the ways, for some years, is to tack an artificial one-year
extension onto the advertised expiration date, while (in many cases)
operating behind the scenes to sell it to the highest bidder rather than
letting normal expiration occur.


Point 3: The main reason WHOIS data can mislead is that it's not
historical.

The reason this is so confusing to people is that WHOIS historical data
aren't offered, only current data -- so you cannot easily see what it
-used- to say. This is a point I'll return to, further on.

The 'Updated Date' of August 12th is when the domain record was last
substantively changed. I'm betting that the change was to deprive the
erstwhile owner, on the day of expiration, of functional control, while
tacking on the artificial additional year of runtime to the domain term
so that Blue Razor Domain could be the de-facto owner while trying to
monetise it. Hold that thought:


Point 4: Pay close attention to domain status flags.

Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited
Domain Status: clientUpdateProhibited https://www.icann.org/epp#clientUpdateProhibited

Each of these four ICANN-defined domain status flags is explained at the
indicated URL. The first two are strong indicators that the registrar
has seized control.

clientDeleteProhibited: This status code tells your domain's registry
to reject requests to delete the domain. This status indicates that it
is not possible to delete the domain name registration, which can
prevent unauthorized deletions resulting from hijacking and/or fraud. If
you do want to delete your domain, you must first contact your registrar
and request that they remove this status code.

clientRenewProhibited: This status code tells your domain's registry to
reject requests to renew your domain. It is an uncommon status that is
usually enacted during legal disputes or when your domain is subject to
deletion. Often, this status indicates an issue with your domain that
needs resolution. If so, you should contact your registrar to resolve
the issue. If your domain does not have any issues, and you simply want
to renew it, you must first contact your registrar and request that they
remove this status code.

The latter two are normal for in-use domains, and are safeguards to
prevent hijacking of a domain by one registrar to steal a customer from
an incumbent registrar (called 'domain slamming').


Point 5: Avoid the bonehead error of creating a domain contact SPoF.

Registrant ID: CR32304654
Registrant Name: Jared Klett
Registrant Organization: Pokkari, Inc.
Registrant Street: 117 West 25th St.
Registrant Street: Floor 2
Registrant City: New York
Registrant State/Province: New York
Registrant Postal Code: 10001
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.8776047388
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: pokkari-at-gmail.com

This is the erstwhile domain owner ('Registrant'). 'Registrant' is one
of the four contact roles associated with a domain. The other three are
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, and Billing Contact. For
some reason, Billing Contact appears (these days) to be never shown in
the publicly advertised WHOIS data for domains, only the other three.

Admin ID: CR32304656
Admin Name: Jared Klett
Admin Organization: Pokkari, Inc.
[...]
Tech ID: CR32304655
Tech Name: Jared Klett
Tech Organization: Pokkari, Inc.
[...]

For brevity's sake, I've cut short the Administrative Contact and
Technical Contact blocks, but Mr. Klett listed himself identically for
all three of the publicly published roles: Same name, same street
address, same e-mail address, same telephone number.

That is a bonehead error. Never do that. Listing identical contact
information for all three publicly advertised roles is a classic SPoF
(single point of failure) error. You thereby ensure that if _one_
e-mail address fails to receive renewal notices, or 'Dude, there's a
problem with your domain' mails, etc., nobody can be told vital
information. People lose their domains this way, all the time.

Do _not_ use the same e-mail address or the same contact telephone
number for all of a domain's contacts. If necessary, find a
domain-owning friend to be your secondary contact, and you can be his or
hers.

Name Server: NS07.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
Name Server: NS08.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

'domaincontrol.com' is where GoDaddy does outsourced DNS for customers
and resellers.

So, there you have it. I'm 99% sure that either intentionally or
accidentally, erstwhile owner Jared Klett let the domain expire, and
2015-08-11 was the real expiration date, not the 2016-08-11 now being
shown to the public. Now, domain registrar Blue Razor Domains is
playing games with the domain, trying to find a buyer.

The normal expiration process takes 75 days[1], so nyc-geeks.org
_should_ have dropped into the public pool on 2015-10-25. It did not,
because Blue Razor Domains has swooped in and trying to either hold the
domain for itself or auction it off.


2 of 2:

$ whois linuxfreemail.com

Domain Name: LINUXFREEMAIL.COM
Registry Domain ID: 106542227_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.uniregistrar.net
Registrar URL: http://uniregistry.com

Once again, the 'thin' model, delegating the query to a WHOIS server
operated by domain registrar Uniregistrar Corp.

Updated Date: 2015-11-10-T05:32:27Z
Creation Date: 2003-11-12-T19:17:47Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2016-11-12-T19:17:47Z

As I've suggested, one needs to be wary about interpreting the date
records, as they are often caused to be misleading by registrars wishing
to monetise expiring domains. Even before looking at the other lines, I
can confidently predict that this is another case of an artificial
one-year claimed extension of an actually-expired domain. In this
case, it'll end up being 2015-11-10 expiration.

Registry Registrant ID: UNIREG1SUUSSH85
Registrant Name: PRIVACYDOTLINK CUSTOMER 772073
Registrant Organization:
Registrant Street: PO BOX 30485
Registrant City: SEVEN MILE BEACH
Registrant State/Province: GRAND CAYMAN
Registrant Postal Code: KY1-1202
Registrant Country: KY
Registrant Phone: +1.3457495465
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: 772073-at-PRIVACY-LINK.COM
Registry Admin ID: UNIREG1SUUSSH85

(The entries for Administrative Contact and Technical Contact show the
same data.)

This is _either_ another case of the registrar being tricky about
published data on an expired domain, _or_ reflects the erstwhile owner
having used 'privacy proxy' services. Either way, we are not being
permitted to see the erstwhile domain owner's name, address, e-mail
address, or telephone number.

Many registrar companies offer customers a 'privacy proxy' option for
their domains, whereby the three publicly advertised contacts are
obscured, showing registrar-specific contact data again. The registrar
promises to pass along non-spam inquiries, or something like that. If
you use privacy proxy services, you are putting a lot of trust in your
registrar. I definitely would _not_ take that bet.

Some registrars, when a domain expires, change the three contacts to
proxy data, hiding who the erstwhile owner is/was. Whether so intended
or not, this makes it quite difficult to notify the erstwhile owner that
he/she has only a limited time (~2 months) to revived the domain or will
lose it.

So, we don't know who is going to lose linuxfreemail.com around January
24, 2016. Whoever it is, he/she _might_ be permitted to revive the
domain by paying renewal + extra fees to Uniregistrar Corp.

Domain Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Domain Status: clientRenewProhibited
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited

Once again, the 'clientTransferProhibited' flag is normal customer
protection, but the other two are strong indicators that the registrar
has seized control and won't permit the erstwhile owner to assert
administrative functions.

Name Server: buy.internettraffic.com
Name Server: sell.internettraffic.com

These are nameservers used by Uniregistrar Corp. for 'parked domains',
as you can verify by looking at http://linuxfreemail.com/ .


I hope this small tutorial helps people investigate '[x] host can't be
reached' problems a bit more intelligently.


[1] Some registrars implement a 'grace period' of 30 days after
expiration during which the erstwhile owner can revive the domain for
only a regular renewal fee, then 40 days of 'redemption period' in which
it costs markedly more. In all cases, the expiration process is
supposed to end around day 75 after a 'locked' of 5 days where the
registrar is preparing to drop it into the public pool, no longer
registered. The details of this process differ amount registrars,
however. See 'Domain Expiration' on
http://linuxmafia.com/kb/Network_Other/ for more.

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  65. 2015-12-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  66. 2015-12-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  67. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  68. 2015-12-22 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  69. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [Learn - LIU Comp Sci] Fwd: Re: the position
  70. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] UX et al
  71. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  72. 2015-12-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  73. 2015-12-22 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  74. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  75. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  76. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  77. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Structured Data Design
  78. 2015-12-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  79. 2015-12-22 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  80. 2015-12-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  81. 2015-12-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  82. 2015-12-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  83. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  84. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  85. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  86. 2015-12-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  87. 2015-12-22 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  88. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] chicks dig the Linux
  89. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux Viruses PROVEN by this guy
  90. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Holiday Shopping
  91. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  92. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  93. 2015-12-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Movie of the week
  94. 2015-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] MYSQL Licensing
  95. 2015-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux Viruses PROVEN by this guy
  96. 2015-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux Viruses PROVEN by this guy
  97. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Surveillance state in NYC
  98. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Big Bros
  99. 2015-12-23 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux . com is advising to change search engine
  100. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [randolf-at-modperl.pl: FYI: ModPerl and APR with
  101. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux . com is advising to change search engine
  102. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [Frum Jewish Jobs] Telecommunications
  103. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: LIU University Update
  104. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Dangers of living in NYC
  105. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] This is why Bloomberg HAD to go
  106. 2015-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux . com is advising to change search engine
  107. 2015-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux . com is advising to change search engine
  108. 2015-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] anybody see this libreoffice APIs?
  109. 2015-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Journal Update
  110. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Wayland support?
  111. 2015-12-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Report on dns for nylxs.com and mrbrklyn.com
  112. 2015-12-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Report on dns for nylxs.com and mrbrklyn.com
  113. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Christmas Movie
  114. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  115. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [list-at-xenhideout.nl: Re: [opensuse] Moderation on
  116. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [RBrownCCB-at-opensuse.org: Re: [opensuse] Re:
  117. 2015-12-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  118. 2015-12-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  119. 2015-12-26 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  120. 2015-12-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  121. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Fwd: Re: [opensuse] The Post that got Carlos
  122. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  123. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org:
  124. 2015-12-26 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  125. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  126. 2015-12-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  127. 2015-12-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  128. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  129. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  130. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn
  131. 2015-12-27 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  132. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The community demands for Richard Brown to resign
  133. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] The Post that got Carlos ER Banded !!
  134. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Grand Jury
  135. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Federal Grand Jury - cont
  136. 2015-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Never Forgetting a Face
  137. 2015-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Perl6 released
  138. 2015-12-28 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  139. 2015-12-28 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  140. 2015-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  141. 2015-12-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  142. 2015-12-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  143. 2015-12-28 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  144. 2015-12-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  145. 2015-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  146. 2015-12-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  147. 2015-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [magross-at-its.brooklyn.cuny.edu: Re: research]
  148. 2015-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [IEEEservice-at-ieee.org: What's New for Students:
  149. 2015-12-29 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  150. 2015-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_=22The_Danger_of_Partial_No-go_Z?=
  151. 2015-12-29 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Dear Invitor,
  152. 2015-12-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Dear Invitor,
  153. 2015-12-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  154. 2015-12-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  155. 2015-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  156. 2015-12-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  157. 2015-12-29 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  158. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  159. 2015-12-30 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  160. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  161. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] amazon echo
  162. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5BVonage=40harmony=2Evonage=2Ecom=3A_Y?=
  163. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux and voice recognition software
  164. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  165. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Observation Deck at the WTC
  166. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  167. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Perlbox
  168. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  169. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [cymbros-at-assembly.state.ny.us: NYS Launches New
  170. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  171. 2015-12-30 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  172. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  173. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ian Murdock dead
  174. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  175. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  176. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  177. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  178. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ian Murdock suicide
  179. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ian Murdock suicide
  180. 2015-12-31 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ian Murdock suicide: Where did this take place ?
  181. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Star Wars IMAX
  182. 2015-12-31 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Star Wars IMAX
  183. 2015-12-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Star Wars IMAX
  184. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Star Wars IMAX
  185. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Chase Grants and Loans for start ups and Non-Profits
  186. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trapper John is gone

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