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MESSAGE
DATE 2015-12-23
FROM Rick Moen
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux Viruses PROVEN by this guy
Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com):

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_lhqg_p21k

{one Matthew Moore bashing men smelling like straw}

Main bashing target is video clip 'Linux Does What Win Don't!',
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD6nqQrJx78

Clip is kind of dumb. 'Spatry' states: 'Today, I looked on Wikipedia
just to see how many rootkits, trojans, viruses, and worms there are for
Linux, and counted only 47 of them. Combined!'

Something of a dumb argument, as detailed below. Speaker burbles about
kernels, 'secure by design', 'malware cannot harm your system files'...
Blah blah root password blah blah. Kinda mostly content-free. (I'm
going to skip the final 10 minutes because it's a bit painful. He's
blathering about drivers now, at the 2 minute mark.)

Secondary bashing target: 'A lot of people say that you don't have to
worry about malware on Linux. Including right here.' [Link is to
http://www.whylinuxisbetter.net/items/viruses/index.php?lang= ]

Page, by the way, is breezy and inexact, but decent as far as it goes.
Near the top it has the incautious statement 'Linux hardly has any
viruses', which it then semi-decently qualifies as meaning well, they
exist, but they're not a credible threat for some reasons that are then
briefly enumerated.

It is dumb and bad rhetoric to state that few viruses exist for Linux,
because (1) it's factually untrue, and (2) quantity of viruses is
irrelevant to any real-world concern.

In the several sections of http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/faq/, the Linux
malware portion of my person FAQ page, I list:

65 viruses
12 worms
1 buffer-overflow attack on a userspace app (the proprietary mpg123 utility)
320 other various things often erroneously called 'viruses' that are
usable only after compromising security by other means (rootkits,
attack tools)

So, don't claim 'Linux has hardly any viruses'. That's not only
mistaken, but irrelevant. Imagine for the sake of discussion that
you needed to add three zeroes to each of the above figures. OK, so
someone has written a number of codebases (though, in the real world,
this actually is a few codebases with a large number of very minor
and insignificant variations). And that shows...?

Threats are worth paying attention to if they are _credible_. Quantity
of alleged threats doesn't matter if they aren't credible.

The rest of my (long) page is mostly debunking this and other
misconceptions about malware -- and explaining why and to what degree
Linux malware isn't credible. Or rather, if there's malware, it
inevitably turns out to be not an attack but rather a minor secondary
aftereffect of a -real- security problem, and that, the administrator
had a lot more meaningful things than malware to worry about.


Moore: 'Well, you _do_ have to worry about malware on Linux. As a
matter of fact, I've got a malware infection on this very machine, at
this very moment, which I'll demonstrate for you right now. Sophos is
what I use on my Linux systems. This is Sophos Anti-Virus for Linux.
I've been using Sophos products since about about 2009, when I had my
Mac. I personally believe that Sophos has some of the very best
antimalware software for Unix-based operating systems out there. So, I
have Sophos installed on my Arch Linux system, and I will demonstrate
for you right now that I have a malware infection.' [skip tedious stuff
about how he doesn't have WINE, etc.] 'I found out that I had malware
when I tried to launch this application right here, "Imagination".
Didn't work. I tried to rebuild the program, still didn't work. So,
I opened up my terminal, and I scanned it, with Sophos. I narrowed it
down to a single directory -- if I can go back to my commands and find
it, OK -- "sudo savscan -v /var/tmp/Imagination". Oh, we don't need the
verbose mode. We can get rid of that. [reads directory path] So, one
of the Imagination temp files has malware in it, and I'm going to do
that right now.' [skip some fumbling around]



RM notes: Screen report says, in part:
>>> Virus 'Troj/Espion-AD' found in file /var/tmp/Imagination/tekdefense.dll
>>> Virus 'Troj/Farfli-Gen' found in file /var/tmp/Imagination/854137.exe/FILE:0000
>>> Virus 'Mal/FarFli-C' found in file /var/tmp/Imagination/854137.exe


'As you can see, that directory has malware in it. It has two trojans,
and... uh, OK. So, these two are listed as trojans, and this one is
listed as malware Far F L dash C. I don't know what that means, but....
Seven files were scanned, 3 viruses were discovered, 2 files out of 7
were infected. Hmm. Interesting. I didn't think Linux got viruses.
Hmmph. Heh-heh-heh. How do we fix this problem. Well, we do that
command again, and we just put a -remove behind it. That will
automatically prompt us to remove anything that it finds. So, we'll do
that.... OK.... Removal successful. Remove. Removal successful. OK.
Let's just go ahead and double-check that we're clean.... OK. We are
now clean.' [waves hands frenetically] 'So, Sophos antivirus cleaned
up the infection, and no viruses were discovered.'

Again, this is pretty painful, so I'll stop transcribing here.

'THe next thing I wanted to talk about is disk fragmentation.' (Goes on
to talk about the existence of three disk defragmenters in e2fsprogs,
and makes the non-sequitur assertion that the existence of defragmenter
utilities means fragmentation is a problem -- showing that he doesn't
understand the subject at all.

I'll note in passing that he then goes through a Wikipedia page about
e2fsprogs pointing out the three 'defragmenters', and never notices that
two of them are utilities that merely report on the degree of
fragmentation present. The third, e4defrag, is an actual filesystem
defragmenter.

He then runs a fragmentation check (on a SSD with 307,624 files in the
root filesystem), and fails to notice that there's
only a trivial degree of file fragmentation present -- five fragmented
files in total, two of them logfiles, one wtmp, one a Google Chrome
cache file, and a trasient Skype data file. He also fails to notice
that it says 'This directory (/) does not need defragmentation' at the
bottom.

Ugh, I'm sorry, I lasted to the 08:42 mark, but can't take more of this
drivel.



FWIW, Mr. Moore's 'Linux viruses' in /var/tmp/Imagination with the hilariously
MS-Windows-specific filenames were subject of some discussion on
linux.com and Reddit:
http://www.linux.org/threads/matthew-moore-gets-a-virus-on-arch.8011/page-2
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/33s60i/mythbusting_linux_guy_says_he_proofs_that_his/

However, Mr. Moore transported MS-Windows files onto his Arch Linux
system already bearing what Sophos claims to be MS-Windows malware
inside them, he is certainly correct that Linux permits you to do that.

Yeah, boy, that /bin/cp utility is _dangerous_, isn't it?





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  97. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Surveillance state in NYC
  98. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Big Bros
  99. 2015-12-23 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux . com is advising to change search engine
  100. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [randolf-at-modperl.pl: FYI: ModPerl and APR with
  101. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux . com is advising to change search engine
  102. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [Frum Jewish Jobs] Telecommunications
  103. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: LIU University Update
  104. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Dangers of living in NYC
  105. 2015-12-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] This is why Bloomberg HAD to go
  106. 2015-12-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux . com is advising to change search engine
  107. 2015-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux . com is advising to change search engine
  108. 2015-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] anybody see this libreoffice APIs?
  109. 2015-12-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Journal Update
  110. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Wayland support?
  111. 2015-12-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Report on dns for nylxs.com and mrbrklyn.com
  112. 2015-12-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Report on dns for nylxs.com and mrbrklyn.com
  113. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Christmas Movie
  114. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  115. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [list-at-xenhideout.nl: Re: [opensuse] Moderation on
  116. 2015-12-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [RBrownCCB-at-opensuse.org: Re: [opensuse] Re:
  117. 2015-12-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  118. 2015-12-25 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  119. 2015-12-26 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  120. 2015-12-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  121. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Fwd: Re: [opensuse] The Post that got Carlos
  122. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  123. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org:
  124. 2015-12-26 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  125. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  126. 2015-12-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  127. 2015-12-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  128. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  129. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  130. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn
  131. 2015-12-27 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  132. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] The community demands for Richard Brown to resign
  133. 2015-12-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] The Post that got Carlos ER Banded !!
  134. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Grand Jury
  135. 2015-12-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Federal Grand Jury - cont
  136. 2015-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Never Forgetting a Face
  137. 2015-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Perl6 released
  138. 2015-12-28 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  139. 2015-12-28 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  140. 2015-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  141. 2015-12-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  142. 2015-12-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  143. 2015-12-28 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  144. 2015-12-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  145. 2015-12-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  146. 2015-12-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Take the beautiful ferryboat ride to
  147. 2015-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [magross-at-its.brooklyn.cuny.edu: Re: research]
  148. 2015-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [IEEEservice-at-ieee.org: What's New for Students:
  149. 2015-12-29 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  150. 2015-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Fwd=3A_=22The_Danger_of_Partial_No-go_Z?=
  151. 2015-12-29 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Dear Invitor,
  152. 2015-12-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn: Dear Invitor,
  153. 2015-12-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  154. 2015-12-29 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  155. 2015-12-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  156. 2015-12-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  157. 2015-12-29 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  158. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  159. 2015-12-30 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  160. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  161. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] amazon echo
  162. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?=5BVonage=40harmony=2Evonage=2Ecom=3A_Y?=
  163. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux and voice recognition software
  164. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  165. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Observation Deck at the WTC
  166. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  167. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Perlbox
  168. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB Vulnerability
  169. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [cymbros-at-assembly.state.ny.us: NYS Launches New
  170. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  171. 2015-12-30 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  172. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  173. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ian Murdock dead
  174. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  175. 2015-12-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  176. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  177. 2015-12-30 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] California sounding increasingly peachy
  178. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ian Murdock suicide
  179. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ian Murdock suicide
  180. 2015-12-31 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ian Murdock suicide: Where did this take place ?
  181. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Star Wars IMAX
  182. 2015-12-31 Kevin Mark <kevin.mark-at-verizon.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Star Wars IMAX
  183. 2015-12-31 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Star Wars IMAX
  184. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Star Wars IMAX
  185. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Chase Grants and Loans for start ups and Non-Profits
  186. 2015-12-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Trapper John is gone

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