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DATE 2017-11-22
FROM artoo
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] elongind and X
chmod of loginctl is not really good idea.

Why don't you simply set up a polkit rule that does not allow user shutdown?

I don't iget it, you you seem to have a talent to shoot yourself in the
foot?

On 22.11.2017 18:08, Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 05:34:54PM +0100, artoo wrote:
>> I love these one liners.
>>
> What else would be needed aside from one line. I discovered that
> loginctl allows regular users to shutdown the system. I can't have
> that. Such behavior does an end around the core unix security. I tried
> to remove elongd and it said X was a dependendcy.
>
>> Simple answer, you can't, you would need to rebuild xorg.
>>
> can I do that and make it a package to admin with pacman?
>
>
>> Are you sure your special requirements are met with any binary distro?
> Its been nearly a decade since I tore through gentoo. Its not
> relaistic. What I need is a distro that is systemd free, and new
> options are always looked at.
>
> things look like they will get worse with wayland barking at the door.
>
> for the momemnt I chmod 0000 loginctl, but the underlining design flaw
> continues of giving root access to normal users though polykit etc
> continues.
>
>
>> Such stuff is easy on gentoo for example, but your needs are not
>> really well addressed with a binary package distro.
>>
>> Packages on binary distros are compromises, how much of its compile
>> features to enable.
>>
>> Simply speaking, gentoo allows you to customize to very high degree,
>> since you compile the packages from source yourself.
>>
> Maybe I can compile an x package that doesn't hook into councilkit et
> al through gentoo.
>
>
>
>> Artoo
>>
>>
>> On 22.11.2017 16:35, Ruben Safir wrote:
>>> How do I get rid of loginctl and elongd and keep X?
>>>
>>>
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