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DATE | 2017-11-22 |
FROM | artoo
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] elongind and X
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Wed Nov 22 16:56:58 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: archive-at-nylxs.com Received: from www.mrbrklyn.com (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32E8D163F64; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:56:58 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0ABDD163F5F; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:56:55 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:56:55 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20171122215655.GL8880-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from us2.mailinglist1.mailhostbox.com (us2.mailinglist1.mailhostbox.com [204.11.59.83]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with SMTP id ED37D160876 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:41:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 30188 invoked by uid 300); 22 Nov 2017 17:41:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact artix-general-help-at-artixlinux.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list artix-general-at-artixlinux.org Received: (qmail 30180 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2017 17:41:40 -0000 Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=23.83.209.248; helo=tiger.birch.relay.mailchannels.net; envelope-from=artoo-at-cromnix.org; receiver=artix-general-at-artixlinux.org X-Sender-Id: hostingerinternationalltd|x-authuser|artoo-at-cromnix.org X-Sender-Id: hostingerinternationalltd|x-authuser|artoo-at-cromnix.org X-MC-Relay: Neutral X-MailChannels-SenderId: hostingerinternationalltd|x-authuser|artoo-at-cromnix.org X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: hostingerinternationalltd X-Drop-Lyrical: 49ffabbf4f4ae9b4_1511372492954_3899565062 X-MC-Loop-Signature: 1511372492953:958436912 X-MC-Ingress-Time: 1511372492953 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cromnix.org ; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To: MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=6RhjN5dRbwIGoOMObwBgQgI7BHRrUrP4z9GFAkisCEI=; b=ByrQGP+hICI83ElEHlxeb8YbnG 52qrRvENvNRTNizw2Y+0q1odhy3n4go4LwrwjcothIeXwlTDrUc7alfmoaCMxfzP33Tip+SfoqZvW xAcHEoYTCJRyhP2Lstp+1utwvj7S1AjBLwC/f5XSS3lCSTZQQKbBwtf4kiQZ6mR+X8d4VHG/Rx//W X1WrYyclSkuurop+AseQL819P2aP2dZkDvQUNKX9pbIq3gypOPZoLZnsv3tw8jYEjmO3JboAVwMhw LJIyYWwrIt3WVDRqUlsbSFT2d9ZAv3eNJeddmWR446TqolSxw5xtuyJ0dG3ztdjsrPoH5+fsl+JkY 93S3RbrA==; To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org References: <20171122153556.GA6304-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> <12aff545-8f33-ed5b-bb50-64fe9488f53a-at-cromnix.org> <20171122170826.GA6842-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> From: artoo Message-ID: <26908265-a4be-3311-d502-703bc3dba0a4-at-cromnix.org> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:41:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20171122170826.GA6842-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> Content-Language: de-LU X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.2 X-AuthUser: artoo-at-cromnix.org X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=I7cVfJog c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=DY4PKLP3p1WqNAUdBoDpDg==:117 a=fUWAtpeY+gdG4MJyR6mLnw==:17 a=vrmhnAz3pJyqWDmDIStkYNBM3XU=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=sC3jslCIGhcA:10 a=ZlcCWZLrQwKgmMxnqZ0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=bIBmGL2Z c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=zwduSmy4AjDBHUTGCDCBCg==:117 a=fUWAtpeY+gdG4MJyR6mLnw==:17 a=vrmhnAz3pJyqWDmDIStkYNBM3XU=:19 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=sC3jslCIGhcA:10 a=ZlcCWZLrQwKgmMxnqZ0A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] elongind and X X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
chmod of loginctl is not really good idea.
Why don't you simply set up a polkit rule that does not allow user shutdown?
I don't iget it, you you seem to have a talent to shoot yourself in the foot?
On 22.11.2017 18:08, Ruben Safir wrote: > On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 05:34:54PM +0100, artoo wrote: >> I love these one liners. >> > What else would be needed aside from one line. I discovered that > loginctl allows regular users to shutdown the system. I can't have > that. Such behavior does an end around the core unix security. I tried > to remove elongd and it said X was a dependendcy. > >> Simple answer, you can't, you would need to rebuild xorg. >> > can I do that and make it a package to admin with pacman? > > >> Are you sure your special requirements are met with any binary distro? > Its been nearly a decade since I tore through gentoo. Its not > relaistic. What I need is a distro that is systemd free, and new > options are always looked at. > > things look like they will get worse with wayland barking at the door. > > for the momemnt I chmod 0000 loginctl, but the underlining design flaw > continues of giving root access to normal users though polykit etc > continues. > > >> Such stuff is easy on gentoo for example, but your needs are not >> really well addressed with a binary package distro. >> >> Packages on binary distros are compromises, how much of its compile >> features to enable. >> >> Simply speaking, gentoo allows you to customize to very high degree, >> since you compile the packages from source yourself. >> > Maybe I can compile an x package that doesn't hook into councilkit et > al through gentoo. > > > >> Artoo >> >> >> On 22.11.2017 16:35, Ruben Safir wrote: >>> How do I get rid of loginctl and elongd and keep X? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ Hangout mailing list Hangout-at-nylxs.com http://lists.mrbrklyn.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout
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