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DATE | 2017-11-22 |
FROM | Ruben Safir
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] elongind and X
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From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Wed Nov 22 16:57:05 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-at-nylxs.com Delivered-To: archive-at-nylxs.com Received: from www.mrbrklyn.com (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE79F163F68; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:57:04 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: hangout-at-www.mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: hangout-at-www.mrbrklyn.com Received: by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D6B52163F66; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:57:01 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Ruben Safir Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:57:01 -0500 Resent-Message-ID: <20171122215701.GM8880-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> Resent-To: hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com X-Original-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Delivered-To: ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com Received: from us2.mailinglist1.mailhostbox.com (us2.mailinglist1.mailhostbox.com [204.11.59.83]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with SMTP id CC1F0160876 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:08:27 -0500 (EST) Received: (qmail 14202 invoked by uid 300); 22 Nov 2017 17:08:27 -0000 Mailing-List: contact artix-general-help-at-artixlinux.org; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list artix-general-at-artixlinux.org Received: (qmail 14194 invoked from network); 22 Nov 2017 17:08:27 -0000 Received-SPF: Pass (sender SPF authorized) identity=mailfrom; client-ip=96.57.23.82; helo=mrbrklyn.com; envelope-from=ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com; receiver=artix-general-at-artixlinux.org Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 12:08:26 -0500 From: Ruben Safir To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org Message-ID: <20171122170826.GA6842-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20171122153556.GA6304-at-www.mrbrklyn.com> <12aff545-8f33-ed5b-bb50-64fe9488f53a-at-cromnix.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <12aff545-8f33-ed5b-bb50-64fe9488f53a-at-cromnix.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=E5K9neVl c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=dOhXy1r7xzSwKFzJ68PqjA==:117 a=dOhXy1r7xzSwKFzJ68PqjA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=sC3jslCIGhcA:10 a=fsXLkTk5AAAA:8 a=FcfTqRDnAAAA:8 a=xjE6hrZFAAAA:8 a=8y7a7jOUAAAA:8 a=AgCDEUDIxAzvayR3_1MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=zTVZ3laHAWFKilA0fLUg:22 a=Bsx0bUy9NE8EFo2K93DO:22 a=cQTx0dXZiNa8F2_Zw6cy:22 a=Mi-wik13hbtWp4D3kfeb:22 X-CMAE-Score: 0 X-CMAE-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=bIBmGL2Z c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=arQiy8F7EFp3ehhvfglvjA==:117 a=dOhXy1r7xzSwKFzJ68PqjA==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=sC3jslCIGhcA:10 a=AgCDEUDIxAzvayR3_1MA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 Subject: Re: [Hangout - NYLXS] [artix-general] elongind and X X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: artix-general-at-artixlinux.org List-Id: NYLXS Tech Talk and Politics List-Unsubscribe: , List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Sender: "Hangout"
On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 05:34:54PM +0100, artoo wrote: > I love these one liners. >
What else would be needed aside from one line. I discovered that loginctl allows regular users to shutdown the system. I can't have that. Such behavior does an end around the core unix security. I tried to remove elongd and it said X was a dependendcy.
> > Simple answer, you can't, you would need to rebuild xorg. > can I do that and make it a package to admin with pacman?
> Are you sure your special requirements are met with any binary distro?
Its been nearly a decade since I tore through gentoo. Its not relaistic. What I need is a distro that is systemd free, and new options are always looked at.
things look like they will get worse with wayland barking at the door.
for the momemnt I chmod 0000 loginctl, but the underlining design flaw continues of giving root access to normal users though polykit etc continues.
> > Such stuff is easy on gentoo for example, but your needs are not > really well addressed with a binary package distro. > > Packages on binary distros are compromises, how much of its compile > features to enable. > > Simply speaking, gentoo allows you to customize to very high degree, > since you compile the packages from source yourself. >
Maybe I can compile an x package that doesn't hook into councilkit et al through gentoo.
> > Artoo > > > On 22.11.2017 16:35, Ruben Safir wrote: > >How do I get rid of loginctl and elongd and keep X? > > > >
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