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| DATE | 2006-05-24 |
| FROM | Ruben Safir
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| SUBJECT | Re: [Balug-talk] [rick@linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal]
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From owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Wed May 24 03:07:06 2006 Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k4O7744a029725 for ; Wed, 24 May 2006 03:07:06 -0400 Received: (from majordomo-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k4O774uk029724 for hangout-outgoings; Wed, 24 May 2006 03:07:04 -0400 X-Authentication-Warning: www2.mrbrklyn.com: majordomo set sender to owner-hangout-at-nylxs.com using -f Received: from www2.mrbrklyn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/SuSE Linux 0.7) with ESMTP id k4O76kOX029721; Wed, 24 May 2006 03:06:48 -0400 Received: (from ruben-at-localhost) by www2.mrbrklyn.com (8.13.1/8.13.1/Submit) id k4O76kCv029720; Wed, 24 May 2006 03:06:46 -0400 Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 03:06:46 -0400 From: Ruben Safir To: Rick Moen Cc: balug-talk-at-lists.balug.org, hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com, rms-at-gnu.org Subject: Re: [Balug-talk] [rick-at-linuxmafia.com: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Its a sorry day for The Linux?Journal] Message-ID: <20060524070646.GA29658-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> References: <20060523144621.GE23149-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20060524042010.GE28343-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20060524061406.GR2569-at-linuxmafia.com> <20060524063708.GB29300-at-www2.mrbrklyn.com> <20060524064437.GU29273-at-linuxmafia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060524064437.GU29273-at-linuxmafia.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i Sender: owner-hangout-at-mrbrklyn.com Precedence: bulk X-Keywords: X-UID: 9751 Status: RO Content-Length: 2739 Lines: 82
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 11:44:37PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com): > > Serve: > > > The general problem I find with your argument is that the cat is out > > of the bag. The term "Open Source" has been adopted in the language > > by many people who talk with varrying degrees of autority, whether they > > are directly involved with OSI or not. > > Volley: >
ROFL!
> The general problem I find with your argument is that the cat is out of > the bag: The term "north" has been adopted in the language by many > people who talk with varying degrees of authority, whether they have any > sense of direction or not. And that is why these preposterous > directional claims from professional compass and map-makers no longer > have any credibilty. > >
I think a few more people will identify Linus Tovalds as the leader of the "Open Source" movement than will confuse North with South, but I could very well be wrong.
> > For whatever it is worth, OSI is no longer defining "Open Source" > > The Open Source Definition politely asks recognition from the court, and > then refutes you, thus: > http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition_plain.php > > You are evidently confusing definitions with trademark programs. (There > is an "OSI Certified" service mark program in place of the former > alleged trademark, which had legal flaws.) >
In my opinion, this is the same mistake my beloved friend Richard Stallman makes. Both think that they can correct the publics thinking on a key terminology by correcting individuals one person at a time.
The one thing Richard does extremely well though is it develop a message and to stick with it until it catches on with the press and the public.
In any event, in terms of Marketing,
I'd rather be as "Free as a Bird" that as "Open as a Prostitute" :)
And that is my last sentence on this topic for now.
Ruben
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