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MESSAGE
DATE 2015-06-25
FROM prmarino1@gmail.com
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Exciting News from SF...

Yea that still doesn't answer my long standing statement docker fixes an obsolete problem. We already have better ways to handle initializing a raw VM image to a full application server (cloud init is messy but more than workable). While I'm not 100% wild about dracut it is extremely useful for light weight Paravirtualization in the sense that it can make the Linux Kernel in a standard distro require less ram than it has in more than a decade. Finally containers are no more than a kernel enforced chroot and still have all of the same problems to a systems admin that made most of them shy away from chroot in the 80s the difference is now many "web developers" think they know better than sysadmins on how everything works. By the way I put web developers in quotes to clarify that those people are not really qualified web developers but mostly kids just out of college given a title in there first job at a new startup. By the way these are the same kids who post and vote  on segfault, stackexchange, etc..


  Original Message  
From: Ruben Safir
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 03:18
To: Hangout
Reply To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Exciting News from SF...


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/24/microsoft_dockercon_demos/


Docker and Microsoft unite Windows and Linux in the cloud


Redmond demos cross-platform containerized apps

Scott Johnson and Mark Russinovich at DockerCon 2015
Docker's Scott Johnson and Microsoft's Mark Russinovich shared the love
at DockerCon 2015
24 Jun 2015 at 21:42, Neil McAllister


*DockerCon 2015* Microsoft has doubled down on its support for Docker,
further integrating the software container tech with Azure and Visual
Studio Online and demoing the first-ever containerized application
spanning both Windows and Linux systems.

The software giant first showed off its support for Docker on its Azure
cloud at the DockerCon conference in June 2014. Then in October it said
it would introduce Docker-compatible containers for Windows

in the next version of Windows Server.

At this year's DockerCon, which took place in San Francisco earlier this
week, attendees could stop by Microsoft's booth to see Windows
Containers in action – although there's still no word on a release date
for a version of Windows Server that supports them.

Then, during Tuesday morning's DockerCon keynote, Microsoft Azure CTO
Mark Russinovich went one step further by giving a demo of a
containerized application where some of the code ran on Linux and some
on Windows Server.

Cleverly, he pushed a container with the ASP.Net portion of the code to
the Linux server, while the Windows host ran a container with the
Node.js portion. Ordinarily you might expect it to work the other way
around.

To drive the point home, there were plenty of free T-shirts available at
the Microsoft booth on the subject of uniting Windows and Linux via
Docker. There were even buttons with the catchphrase that Microsoft CEO
Satya Nadella coined
in
November, "Microsoft ♥ Linux."

Microsoft Loves Linux

Who'da thunk it?


Docker, Docker everywhere

Behind the scenes, Docker's own orchestration tools

– including Docker Compose and Docker Swarm – handled the grunt work for
both operating systems. But Russinovich didn't need to muck about with
the command line, thanks to the newly implemented integration of
Docker's tools with Visual Studio.

Russinovich first demonstrated how the IntelliSense feature of Redmond's
free, cross-platform Visual Studio Code
editor
worked with Docker container configuration files. For example, it
detected when he was typing the name of an image file and IntelliSense's
code completion feature automatically pulled in a list of possible
matches direct from Docker Hub.

Support for publishing projects to Docker hosts is coming to the
full-fat Visual Studio IDE, Russinovich said. But for his demo, he
instead used Visual Studio Code to upload his project to Visual Studio
Online
,
which also now includes Docker integration.

The upload automatically triggered a series of continuous integration
(CI) steps, Russinovich said, such as building Docker images, running
containerized unit tests, pushing the images to Docker Hub, creating a
Docker Swarm cluster on a collection of Azure VMs, and finally pushing
the composed, multi-container application to the cluster.

And if you do plan to deploy your containerized apps on Azure,
Russinovich added, Microsoft has made that easy for you, too. Beginning
on Tuesday, you can now deploy Dockerized applications via the Azure
Marketplace, including ones composed of multiple containers.

The Azure Resource Manager and the Management Portal have also been
updated so that admins can specify configuration options for Dockerized
apps, not just for the virtual machines onto which they will be deployed
but also for the containers that will be launched on the virtual machines.

It's still early days yet for Microsoft and containers, but Redmond is
clearly all-in on the concept. The proof? In addition to everything he
demoed onstage at DockerCon, Russinovich had another bombshell to drop.
Since the beginning of May, he said, the Number One contributor to the
open source Docker code base has been Microsoft. ®

Tips and corrections


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  1. 2015-06-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jobs
  2. 2015-06-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: [Perlweekly] #201 - Legacy Perl?
  3. 2015-06-01 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [xdg-at-xdg.me: IBM Watson hackathon, Brooklyn, May 4-5]
  4. 2015-06-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Logicworks
  5. 2015-06-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Artifical Intelligence Workshop cancelled tonight for Space Program
  6. 2015-06-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  7. 2015-06-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Rockstar
  8. 2015-06-02 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] openrc distorwatch
  9. 2015-06-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  10. 2015-06-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 3d scanning and virtualization
  11. 2015-06-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] 3d scanning and virtualization
  12. 2015-06-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  13. 2015-06-02 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [announce-at-lists.isoc-ny.org: =?utf-8?Q?=5B?=
  14. 2015-06-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] future tech control
  15. 2015-06-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  16. 2015-06-02 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  17. 2015-06-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] $9 SOC
  18. 2015-06-02 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  19. 2015-06-03 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  20. 2015-06-03 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  21. 2015-06-03 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  22. 2015-06-03 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  23. 2015-06-03 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  24. 2015-06-03 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  25. 2015-06-03 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  26. 2015-06-03 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  27. 2015-06-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  28. 2015-06-05 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] making money with open source - John Walker
  29. 2015-06-05 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
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  31. 2015-06-05 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  32. 2015-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  33. 2015-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Tomorrow: Join 20 astropreneurs at "Super-Releaser Presents,
  34. 2015-06-05 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
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  36. 2015-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  37. 2015-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Artificial Intelligence
  38. 2015-06-05 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  39. 2015-06-05 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  40. 2015-06-05 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
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  43. 2015-06-05 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
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  45. 2015-06-06 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  46. 2015-06-06 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  47. 2015-06-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this makes me sick
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  49. 2015-06-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux Laptops cheap
  50. 2015-06-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Distro News
  51. 2015-06-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Brooklyn Press
  52. 2015-06-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Meeting
  53. 2015-06-06 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this makes me sick
  54. 2015-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] This weeks schedule
  55. 2015-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://hadoop.apache.org/
  56. 2015-06-07 Paul Charles Leddy <pcleddy-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://hadoop.apache.org/
  57. 2015-06-07 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://hadoop.apache.org/
  58. 2015-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NBC Job
  59. 2015-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://hadoop.apache.org/
  60. 2015-06-07 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [speakers-at-ohiolinux.org: Ohio LinuxFest 2015 Call for Presentations]
  61. 2015-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Grunt
  62. 2015-06-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Job Teaching Adrino
  63. 2015-06-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Junior Python
  64. 2015-06-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] fundraiser
  65. 2015-06-09 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] cups security update
  66. 2015-06-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://hadoop.apache.org/
  67. 2015-06-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Dynamic Network Stacks
  68. 2015-06-10 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Movie of the Week
  69. 2015-06-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Movie of the Week
  70. 2015-06-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] this just breaks my heart..
  71. 2015-06-14 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: The Best Careers for People With ADHD
  72. 2015-06-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Journal Articles
  73. 2015-06-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Programming and Design contest
  74. 2015-06-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] healthcare premiums
  75. 2015-06-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tor security
  76. 2015-06-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Movie of the Week
  77. 2015-06-18 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tor security
  78. 2015-06-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] join me for school with a scholarship from the Linux foundation
  79. 2015-06-19 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Tor security
  80. 2015-06-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] interesting Brooklyn business
  81. 2015-06-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Never Forget...
  82. 2015-06-24 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  83. 2015-06-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  84. 2015-06-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  85. 2015-06-24 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  86. 2015-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  87. 2015-06-24 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  88. 2015-06-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  89. 2015-06-24 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  90. 2015-06-24 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  91. 2015-06-24 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  92. 2015-06-25 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  93. 2015-06-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  94. 2015-06-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] something strange a coworker did in fstab
  95. 2015-06-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Exciting News from SF...
  96. 2015-06-25 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Exciting News from SF...
  97. 2015-06-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Exciting News from SF...
  98. 2015-06-26 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Exciting News from SF...
  99. 2015-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Linux training
  100. 2015-06-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: strange function types in unistd.h
  101. 2015-06-27 Paul Robert Marino <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Exciting News from SF...
  102. 2015-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] I'm a grandfather, or will be in a few hours
  103. 2015-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Sleep
  104. 2015-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: Sleep
  105. 2015-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS deleted
  106. 2015-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] South Fallsburg
  107. 2015-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Baby it is COLD outside
  108. 2015-06-28 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Baby it is COLD outside
  109. 2015-06-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] South Fallsburg
  110. 2015-06-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Baby it is COLD outside
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