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MESSAGE
DATE 2015-06-28
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] NYLXS deleted

On 06/28/2015 06:28 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Quoting Ruben Safir (mrbrklyn-at-panix.com):
>
>> We were deleted from Wikipedea...
>
> If there's a Wikipedia article you care about, it's wise to keep an
> eye on it, watching for some Wikipedian naming it for proposed
> deletion. Here's a case in point:
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Massachusetts_Convention_Fandom%2C_Inc&type=revision&diff=564457718&oldid=549007393
>
>
>
Prposed-for-deletion complaint cites about the
> Massachusetts_Convention_Fandom,_Inc page cited:
>
> o Lack of evidence of 'notability' (This is what got the NYLXS
> page.) o 'does not cite any references or sources' o 'written in a
> confusing manner' o 'maintenance tags' dating back to 2008 had been
> unaddressed a/o 2013
>
> Some friends of mine and I who care about MFCI, Inc. responded to
> the challenge by supplying creditable third-party site references
> proving that MFCI is 'notable' (worthy of mention in an
> encyclopaedia, and not just pushing a vanity page), cleaning up the
> article's style, rewriting its text to make it clearer. This more
> than satisfied the 'deletionist' critic Wikipedian -- this guy:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Andrewman327
>
> In the case of the NYLXS article, your deletionist critic considered
> the notability such a slam-dunk that he used the expedited process
> called PROD (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:PROD) to suggest it's
> an _uncontroversial deletion_, i.e., one that's so obviously needed
> that no opposition is expected. A WP:PROD notice gets posted on the
> target article for seven days. If nobody objects, it goes through.
>
> Note this bit from the WP:PROD Web page:
>
> Even after it has been deleted, a PRODed article can be restored by
> anybody through an automated request for undeletion [link]. By the
> same logic, PROD is one-shot only: It must not be used for articles
> PRODed before or previously discussed on AfD.
>
> AfD is the _normal_, unexpedited process for deleting an article that
> a deletionist critic has in mind to elminiate.
>
>
> So, the linneus bottomus: If you want to revive the NYLXS article,
> you can easily do so. But then, if you do that, expect to do some
> significan work improving it and proving the subject's notability.
>
>
we are not listed on your website?

there are so many fundamental flaws with wikipedea at this point,
it turns my stomach. Organizations like Yale university have staffs
of people to work the obtuse wikipedea system to make sure their
professors and staff have their own entries, no matter how unnotable
they are.

Any Jewish article is attacked repeatedly and viciously. It never
stops and
NO attempt is made to equalize the situation since obviously there are far
more anti-semites in the world, starting with, I believe, 900 million
Muslims.

See this as a small example
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Neo-fascism&oldid=648993966

And it is not just the antisemites. Gays have run over every single
entry. You
have almost half of Shakespear dedicated to the idea that perhaps, maybe,
he was gay, along with Newton, Divinci, Rembrandt and Moses.

You have gay activists combing for any small reference they can find
such as this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Call_Her_Savage

How about Math. I tried to untangle the Floyd Algorithm so that it
would be
understandable by graduate students. An idiot from UC Irvine had his
staff sit on it
and to this point, nobody can understand it. it is his personal baby.

Several people have tried to fix the article but David Epstein refuses
to allow anyone
to make it in any way understandable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Floyd%E2%80%93Warshall_algorithm&action=history

I removed a paragraph about Greece that reference the Daily World's new
website
http://www.politicalaffairs.net/fascism-in-greece/

then there is the "article" on recent shootings of young black men, a
series of entries
that were clearly initiated as a political effort.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers_in_the_United_States,_August_2014#Comment


We would be better off if they took this how hairball of crap down.


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