Sun Feb 5 10:06:00 2023
EVENTS
 FREE
SOFTWARE
INSTITUTE

POLITICS
JOBS
MEMBERS'
CORNER

MAILING
LIST

NYLXS Mailing Lists and Archives
NYLXS Members have a lot to say and share but we don't keep many secrets. Join the Hangout Mailing List and say your peice.

DATE 2015-10-01

HANGOUT

2023-02-05 | 2023-01-05 | 2022-12-05 | 2022-11-05 | 2022-10-05 | 2022-09-05 | 2022-08-05 | 2022-07-05 | 2022-06-05 | 2022-05-05 | 2022-04-05 | 2022-03-05 | 2022-02-05 | 2022-01-05 | 2021-12-05 | 2021-11-05 | 2021-10-05 | 2021-09-05 | 2021-08-05 | 2021-07-05 | 2021-06-05 | 2021-05-05 | 2021-04-05 | 2021-03-05 | 2021-02-05 | 2021-01-05 | 2020-12-05 | 2020-11-05 | 2020-10-05 | 2020-09-05 | 2020-08-05 | 2020-07-05 | 2020-06-05 | 2020-05-05 | 2020-04-05 | 2020-03-05 | 2020-02-05 | 2020-01-05 | 2019-12-05 | 2019-11-05 | 2019-10-05 | 2019-09-05 | 2019-08-05 | 2019-07-05 | 2019-06-05 | 2019-05-05 | 2019-04-05 | 2019-03-05 | 2019-02-05 | 2019-01-05 | 2018-12-05 | 2018-11-05 | 2018-10-05 | 2018-09-05 | 2018-08-05 | 2018-07-05 | 2018-06-05 | 2018-05-05 | 2018-04-05 | 2018-03-05 | 2018-02-05 | 2018-01-05 | 2017-12-05 | 2017-11-05 | 2017-10-05 | 2017-09-05 | 2017-08-05 | 2017-07-05 | 2017-06-05 | 2017-05-05 | 2017-04-05 | 2017-03-05 | 2017-02-05 | 2017-01-05 | 2016-12-05 | 2016-11-05 | 2016-10-05 | 2016-09-05 | 2016-08-05 | 2016-07-05 | 2016-06-05 | 2016-05-05 | 2016-04-05 | 2016-03-05 | 2016-02-05 | 2016-01-05 | 2015-12-05 | 2015-11-05 | 2015-10-05 | 2015-09-05 | 2015-08-05 | 2015-07-05 | 2015-06-05 | 2015-05-05 | 2015-04-05 | 2015-03-05 | 2015-02-05 | 2015-01-05 | 2014-12-05 | 2014-11-05 | 2014-10-05 | 2014-09-05 | 2014-08-05 | 2014-07-05 | 2014-06-05 | 2014-05-05 | 2014-04-05 | 2014-03-05 | 2014-02-05 | 2014-01-05 | 2013-12-05 | 2013-11-05 | 2013-10-05 | 2013-09-05 | 2013-08-05 | 2013-07-05 | 2013-06-05 | 2013-05-05 | 2013-04-05 | 2013-03-05 | 2013-02-05 | 2013-01-05 | 2012-12-05 | 2012-11-05 | 2012-10-05 | 2012-09-05 | 2012-08-05 | 2012-07-05 | 2012-06-05 | 2012-05-05 | 2012-04-05 | 2012-03-05 | 2012-02-05 | 2012-01-05 | 2011-12-05 | 2011-11-05 | 2011-10-05 | 2011-09-05 | 2011-08-05 | 2011-07-05 | 2011-06-05 | 2011-05-05 | 2011-04-05 | 2011-03-05 | 2011-02-05 | 2011-01-05 | 2010-12-05 | 2010-11-05 | 2010-10-05 | 2010-09-05 | 2010-08-05 | 2010-07-05 | 2010-06-05 | 2010-05-05 | 2010-04-05 | 2010-03-05 | 2010-02-05 | 2010-01-05 | 2009-12-05 | 2009-11-05 | 2009-10-05 | 2009-09-05 | 2009-08-05 | 2009-07-05 | 2009-06-05 | 2009-05-05 | 2009-04-05 | 2009-03-05 | 2009-02-05 | 2009-01-05 | 2008-12-05 | 2008-11-05 | 2008-10-05 | 2008-09-05 | 2008-08-05 | 2008-07-05 | 2008-06-05 | 2008-05-05 | 2008-04-05 | 2008-03-05 | 2008-02-05 | 2008-01-05 | 2007-12-05 | 2007-11-05 | 2007-10-05 | 2007-09-05 | 2007-08-05 | 2007-07-05 | 2007-06-05 | 2007-05-05 | 2007-04-05 | 2007-03-05 | 2007-02-05 | 2007-01-05 | 2006-12-05 | 2006-11-05 | 2006-10-05 | 2006-09-05 | 2006-08-05 | 2006-07-05 | 2006-06-05 | 2006-05-05 | 2006-04-05 | 2006-03-05 | 2006-02-05 | 2006-01-05 | 2005-12-05 | 2005-11-05 | 2005-10-05 | 2005-09-05 | 2005-08-05 | 2005-07-05 | 2005-06-05 | 2005-05-05 | 2005-04-05 | 2005-03-05 | 2005-02-05 | 2005-01-05 | 2004-12-05 | 2004-11-05 | 2004-10-05 | 2004-09-05 | 2004-08-05 | 2004-07-05 | 2004-06-05 | 2004-05-05 | 2004-04-05 | 2004-03-05 | 2004-02-05 | 2004-01-05 | 2003-12-05 | 2003-11-05 | 2003-10-05 | 2003-09-05 | 2003-08-05 | 2003-07-05 | 2003-06-05 | 2003-05-05 | 2003-04-05 | 2003-03-05 | 2003-02-05 | 2003-01-05 | 2002-12-05 | 2002-11-05 | 2002-10-05 | 2002-09-05 | 2002-08-05 | 2002-07-05 | 2002-06-05 | 2002-05-05 | 2002-04-05 | 2002-03-05 | 2002-02-05 | 2002-01-05 | 2001-12-05 | 2001-11-05 | 2001-10-05 | 2001-09-05 | 2001-08-05 | 2001-07-05 | 2001-06-05 | 2001-05-05 | 2001-04-05 | 2001-03-05 | 2001-02-05 | 2001-01-05 | 2000-12-05 | 2000-11-05 | 2000-10-05 | 2000-09-05 | 2000-08-05 | 2000-07-05 | 2000-06-05 | 2000-05-05 | 2000-04-05 | 2000-03-05 | 2000-02-05 | 2000-01-05 | 1999-12-05

Key: Value:

Key: Value:

MESSAGE
DATE 2015-10-23
FROM prmarino1@gmail.com
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Puppet a bad solution!
From hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com Fri Oct 23 04:15:37 2015
Return-Path:
X-Original-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com
Delivered-To: archive-at-mrbrklyn.com
Received: from www.mrbrklyn.com (www.mrbrklyn.com [96.57.23.82])
by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48DEB163CBE;
Fri, 23 Oct 2015 04:15:34 -0400 (EDT)
X-Original-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Delivered-To: hangout-at-nylxs.com
Received: from mail-yk0-f169.google.com (mail-yk0-f169.google.com
[209.85.160.169]) by mrbrklyn.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 302A6163CB7
for ; Fri, 23 Oct 2015 02:25:21 -0400 (EDT)
Received: by ykba4 with SMTP id a4so102329478ykb.3
for ; Thu, 22 Oct 2015 23:25:18 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113;
h=content-type:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:date
:subject:from:to;
bh=lbX9WOH4k6iY8aBdsW1fYPSHW/joCVJd2/2DFV4CmM8=;
b=zLAPRD45ayfzh3xkTuk+V3g1uYEYUh8EDJQTROec55qEJWjssCFR4m8bTsDCSlMwHG
baYvGIrBD352/sNSo4zRfxOP8KJU4Gj7ldCQMJyTtM58iHSi90DmSaOUM4bcoy5eJLau
04YVOHg5p7eaSR/ZsuvLrl05T6JCRjmK1lnmgeTOHwlbAbCS9tpkKD07cB38QygU4llL
sqETeya8Dh3CxNO8yXYOLl9hszQGxeWJAPubcFyEYjAu4YmhdcrRDJn6Cj4FA3z7KeFR
ElYBMrkyGkLlSSOSCZEwmaB3jfjyXy1s9/kgzLStUhwQyy9XidvZvG+JbBLAixe5LcFg
6jow==
X-Received: by 10.140.43.70 with SMTP id d64mr23245990qga.11.1445581518694;
Thu, 22 Oct 2015 23:25:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([172.56.37.150])
by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i124sm6852671qhc.12.2015.10.22.23.25.16
for
(version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128);
Thu, 22 Oct 2015 23:25:17 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Mailer: BlackBerry Email (10.3.1.2576)
Message-ID: <20151023062516.5251154.29125.18488-at-gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 02:25:16 -0400
From: prmarino1-at-gmail.com
To: NYLXS
Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Puppet a bad solution!
X-BeenThere: hangout-at-nylxs.com
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17
Precedence: list
Reply-To: NYLXS Discussions List
List-Id: NYLXS Discussions List
List-Unsubscribe: ,

List-Archive:
List-Post:
List-Help:
List-Subscribe: ,

Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1756217863=="
Errors-To: hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com
Sender: "hangout"

--===============1756217863==
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=3Dutf-8">
I thought puppet was =
a bad design when I first seriously looked at it in 2009.
tyle=3D"font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif;">This year I had to =
work with it and based on the root cause of an intermittent bug I'm seeing =
that popped up this week I have a new opinion.
=3D"font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif;">
<=
span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif;">I never want =
to see that PCP dosed bad Chucky want to be touching my servers again.n>
>
ns-serif;">It turns out that without explicit instructions that class B nee=
ds class =E2=80=8EA and class C needs class A and B in all of the class the=
following can happen
'Slate Pro', sans-serif;">
: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif;">Code can look something like thisn>
>"pan>
;">Include A
ro', sans-serif;">Include B
libri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif;">Include C
font-family: Calibri, 'Slate Pro', sans-serif;">=E2=80=8E"
> But t=
he result is that it loads them in any random order it wants. And the order=
changes with every =E2=80=8Einvocation of the agent randomly.
=

pan>
=E2=80=8ESo occasionally class C could load and execute firs=
t and as for information from class B but since class B hasn't loaded yet i=
t will get null data. Other times B will load first and need Data from A an=
d get a null response because A hasn't loaded yet then C will load and ask =
for info from A and B, and get null from A and corrupt data from B.
iv>Then again the can load in order (A then B then C) and every thing is ha=
ppy.=E2=80=8E 


--===============1756217863==
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

_______________________________________________
hangout mailing list
hangout-at-nylxs.com
http://www.nylxs.com/mailman/listinfo/hangout

--===============1756217863==--

  1. 2015-10-01 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Adult Education through NYC
  2. 2015-10-04 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Put down the damn phone!
  3. 2015-10-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] running for governor
  4. 2015-10-07 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Good Voluteer Oppurtunity for Grad students et al
  5. 2015-10-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: Server Upgrade - popmail question
  6. 2015-10-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: Server Upgrade - popmail question
  7. 2015-10-14 nylxs <mrbrklyn-at-optonline.net> goign threw
  8. 2015-10-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> going threw 2
  9. 2015-10-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: going threw 2
  10. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hit me
  11. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  12. 2015-10-20 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  13. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  14. 2015-10-20 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  15. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Music Wars and IP
  16. 2015-10-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  17. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] visual cobol
  18. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] popop
  19. 2015-10-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  20. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  21. 2015-10-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  22. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  23. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  24. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Hack the Subway
  25. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Time for a career change?
  26. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  27. 2015-10-20 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  28. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] hack the subway
  29. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Music Wars and IP
  30. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  31. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Time for a career change?
  32. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] mailman roster?
  33. 2015-10-20 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  34. 2015-10-20 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  35. 2015-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] one more
  36. 2015-10-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  37. 2015-10-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  38. 2015-10-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  39. 2015-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  40. 2015-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  41. 2015-10-21 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  42. 2015-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  43. 2015-10-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] events
  44. 2015-10-21 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  45. 2015-10-21 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: The George Sideris Student Travel Awards
  46. 2015-10-21 Ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] visirule
  47. 2015-10-21 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] visirule
  48. 2015-10-21 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  49. 2015-10-21 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  50. 2015-10-21 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  51. 2015-10-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  52. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] visirule
  53. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  54. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  55. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  56. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] WS here we are!
  57. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] base64
  58. 2015-10-22 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] WS here we are!
  59. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] WS here we are!
  60. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] WS here we are!
  61. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] WS here we are!
  62. 2015-10-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] TV Tuner Card
  63. 2015-10-23 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Puppet a bad solution!
  64. 2015-10-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Spin a few records
  65. 2015-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  66. 2015-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Spin a few records
  67. 2015-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Spin a few records
  68. 2015-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Spin a few records
  69. 2015-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Spinning RFecords again
  70. 2015-10-25 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Spin a few records
  71. 2015-10-25 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  72. 2015-10-25 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  73. 2015-10-25 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Puppet a bad solution!
  74. 2015-10-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  75. 2015-10-26 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  76. 2015-10-26 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  77. 2015-10-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  78. 2015-10-27 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  79. 2015-10-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] OK Ready for the WS
  80. 2015-10-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] free wifi router choices at good prices
  81. 2015-10-27 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] free wifi router choices at good prices
  82. 2015-10-27 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] free wifi router choices at good prices
  83. 2015-10-27 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] messed up
  84. 2015-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] wintv
  85. 2015-10-28 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] wintv
  86. 2015-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] what is TAP?
  87. 2015-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] what is TAP?
  88. 2015-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] take a trip
  89. 2015-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Just arrived!
  90. 2015-10-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Just arrived!
  91. 2015-10-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Just arrived!
  92. 2015-10-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Just arrived!
  93. 2015-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] New Perl Text
  94. 2015-10-30 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: [isoc-ny] JOB: Spring 2016 NYC area adjunct

NYLXS are Do'ers and the first step of Doing is Joining! Join NYLXS and make a difference in your community today!