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DATE 2016-03-23
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] FBI and Hacking the iphone
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/23/technology/apple-policy-on-bugs-may-explain-why-hackers-might-help-fbi.html?_r=0


SAN FRANCISCO — After a third party went to the F.B.I. with claims of
being able to unlock an iPhone, many in the security industry said they
were not surprised that the third party did not go to Apple.

For all the steps Apple has taken to encrypt customers’ communications
and its rhetoric around customer privacy, security experts said the
company was still doing less than many competitors to seal up its
systems from hackers. And when hackers do find flaws in Apple’s code,
they have little incentive to turn them over to the company for fixing.

Google, Microsoft, Facebook, Twitter, Mozilla and many other tech
companies all pay outside hackers who turn over bugs in their products
and systems. Uber began a new bug bounty program on Tuesday. Google has
paid outside hackers more than $6 million since it announced a bug
bounty program in 2010, and the company last week doubled its top reward
to $100,000 for anyone who can break into its Chromebook.

Apple, which has had relatively strong security over the years, has been
open about how security is a never-ending cat-and-mouse game and how it
is unwilling to engage in a financial arms race to pay for code exploits.

The company has yet to give hackers anything more than a gold star. When
hackers do turn over serious flaws in its products, they may see their
name listed on the company’s website — but that is it. That is a far cry
from what hackers can expect if they sell an Apple flaw on the thriving
underground market where a growing number of companies and government
agencies are willing to pay hackers handsomely.

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The disclosure by the United States government on Monday that an unknown
third party had approached it — and not Apple — to help open a
controversial iPhone only highlights how the giant company approaches
bug-hunting efforts and security differently from the rest of the tech
industry.

But security experts, especially those with a stake in such bug
programs, said Apple could now be doing more, especially in this day and
age where the conventions of finding bugs and fixing them have changed.
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Just this week, researchers at Johns Hopkins University uncovered a flaw
that would allow attackers to decrypt the contents of photos and videos
attached in Apple’s iMessage program. The researchers turned that flaw
over to Apple for patching.

“Especially with the stakes being as high as they are, if Apple wants to
continue to compete in the modern world, they have to modernize their
approach,” said Katie Moussouris, a chief policy officer at HackerOne,
which companies like Yahoo, Dropbox and now Uber pay to manage their bug
bounty programs.

The identity of the third party that approached the F.B.I. with the
possible way to unlock the iPhone — which was used by one of the
attackers in a mass shooting in San Bernardino, Calif., last year —
remained unknown on Tuesday. The emergence of the third party halted, at
least temporarily, a contentious case between Apple and the United
States government over whether the company should weaken the security of
its iPhone to help law enforcement.

The Justice Department has declined to name the third-party person or
organization, or to describe the proposed method for breaking into the
device. The third party may not have approached Apple for many reasons.

In the past, Microsoft’s systems were a more frequent target for
malicious-minded hackers, largely because of the prevalence of its
products. But as Microsoft began to embrace the hacking community, its
security improved.
Breaking Down Apple’s iPhone Fight With the U.S. Government

The technology company has been locked in a major legal battle against
law enforcement officials over privacy and security.

As Apple’s desktops and mobile phones have gained more market share, and
as customers began to entrust more and more of their personal data to
their iPhones, Apple products have become far more valuable marks for
criminals and spies.

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An Apple spokeswoman referred to an editorial by Craig Federighi, the
company’s senior vice president for software engineering, in which he
wrote, “Security is an endless race — one that you can lead but never
decisively win.”

“Our team must work tirelessly to stay one step ahead of criminal
attackers who seek to pry into personal information,” Mr. Federighi
said. “Despite our best efforts, nothing is 100 percent secure.”

Apple has long been less visible in the security community compared with
other tech companies. The company has shied away from bug bounty
programs and instead relied on large testing programs and the work of
its security team to spot vulnerabilities, partly because it is
disinclined to keep up with a financial arms race of paying for bugs,
according to three former and current employees, who spoke on the
condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak
publicly about security matters.

Apple has said it will fight to know more about the flaw in the software
or hardware that the third party has presented to law enforcement. A
senior executive said in a conference call with reporters Tuesday that
if the government found the method did not work and tried to force Apple
to help break into the phone, Apple would have questions about what was
tried, in order to keep its products as secure as possible.

If the third-party method does work, the government may dismiss a court
order demanding that Apple weaken its security, but keep the process it
used to break into the phone under seal. In that case, Apple would have
no way of knowing how the government broke into its software or hardware.

Exploits in Apple’s code have become increasingly coveted over time,
especially as its mobile devices have become ubiquitous, with an
underground ecosystem of brokers and contractors willing to pay top
dollar for them.

Flaws in Apple’s mobile devices can typically fetch $1 million. Last
September, a boutique firm in Washington, called Zerodium, which sells
flaws to governments and corporations, announced a $1 million bounty for
anyone who would turn over an exploit in Apple’s iOS 9 mobile operating
system — the same operating system used to power the iPhone used by the
San Bernardino shooter. By November, Zerodium said a team of undisclosed
hackers had successfully claimed the bounty.

Chaouki Bekrar, the founder of Zerodium, said his company was not the
outside party referred to in the government’s court filing on Monday.
But Mr. Bekrar added that even if Zerodium had helped the F.B.I., he
would not disclose it.

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“For every Zerodium, there are a thousand other organizations like
Zerodium that are far less vocal about doing what they do and will pay
researchers who find this stuff to keep it a secret,” said Casey Ellis,
the founder of BugCrowd, a company in San Franciso that helps vendors
manage bug bounty programs.

The heated battle between the United States government and Apple over
breaking into the iPhone used by the San Bernardino gunman may have
inadvertently catalyzed the underground market for Apple code flaws.
With the F.B.I. pushing Apple to help unlock the device with a court
order and publicizing that it has been unable to get into the iPhone,
hackers realized there was a blank check for them if they could
accomplish it, said Jon Oberheide, the chief technology officer of Duo
Security, a cloud security company.

Some security researchers said no bounty Apple could offer now would
match the reward they could expect from the underground market. Apple
has waited so long that the black market for its flaws has become
extremely lucrative, perhaps making any bug bounty program the company
would create seem late to the game.

“Apple can embrace security researchers, or try to facilitate programs
that will secure its operating system, but it’s never going to be able
to compete with what is going on behind the scenes in the black market,”
said Jay Kaplan, a former N.S.A. analyst and co-founder of Synack, a
company that deploys hackers to weed out vulnerabilities in clients’
systems. “It’s just not going to happen.”

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  85. 2016-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] GRUB and dual boot issues
  86. 2016-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] C double arrays and pointers
  87. 2016-03-13 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] C double arrays and pointers
  88. 2016-03-13 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Bacckup solutions
  89. 2016-03-13 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Reminder: ny.pm tech meeting Tuesday Mar 15: Perl6
  90. 2016-03-14 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Bacckup solutions
  91. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Bacckup solutions
  92. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] installations
  93. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] backup media
  94. 2016-03-14 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] CLOCK CHANGE: worst part of this is having to
  95. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] CLOCK CHANGE: worst part of this is having to
  96. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  97. 2016-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  98. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  99. 2016-03-14 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Open Suse install failure at end of task ( boot
  100. 2016-03-14 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  101. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYLXS: Kernel and C Programming Workshop
  102. 2016-03-14 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYLXS: Kernel and C Programming Workshop
  103. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYLXS: Kernel and C Programming Workshop
  104. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  105. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: [opensuse] polluting the filesystem
  106. 2016-03-14 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] installations: UEFI settings
  107. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] installations: UEFI settings
  108. 2016-03-14 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] installations: UEFI settings
  109. 2016-03-14 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] purim is coming
  110. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] installations: UEFI settings
  111. 2016-03-14 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] CTX object
  112. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: [opensuse] polluting the filesystem
  113. 2016-03-15 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] purim is coming: If you keep dressing up like
  114. 2016-03-15 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] installations: UEFI settings: Ah,
  115. 2016-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] meeting tonight
  116. 2016-03-15 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: RE: antlr
  117. 2016-03-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  118. 2016-03-14 Yamaban <foerster-at-lisas.de> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] Re: running opensuse on oraclevm
  119. 2016-03-14 jdd <jdd-at-dodin.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  120. 2016-03-14 Christopher Myers <cmyers-at-mail.millikin.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] Re: running opensuse on oraclevm
  121. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] Re: running opensuse on oraclevm
  122. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  123. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  124. 2016-03-14 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  125. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  126. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  127. 2016-03-14 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  128. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  129. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  130. 2016-03-14 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  131. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  132. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  133. 2016-03-14 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  134. 2016-03-14 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  135. 2016-03-14 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  136. 2016-03-14 jdd <jdd-at-dodin.org> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  137. 2016-03-14 Christopher Myers <cmyers-at-mail.millikin.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] Re: running opensuse on oraclevm
  138. 2016-03-14 Yamaban <foerster-at-lisas.de> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] Re: running opensuse on oraclevm
  139. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] Re: running opensuse on oraclevm
  140. 2016-03-14 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  141. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  142. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  143. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  144. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  145. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  146. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  147. 2016-03-14 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  148. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  149. 2016-03-14 From: "Carlos E. R." <robin.listas-at-telefonica.net> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  150. 2016-03-14 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  151. 2016-03-14 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  152. 2016-03-14 Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  153. 2016-03-14 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  154. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  155. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  156. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  157. 2016-03-14 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [opensuse] running opensuse on oraclevm
  158. 2016-03-16 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: The new database of Linux-compatible hardware
  159. 2016-03-16 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  160. 2016-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  161. 2016-03-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Calibre
  162. 2016-03-16 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Re: Fwd: Post to opensuse-at-opensuse.org denied:
  163. 2016-03-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [nylug-talk] NYLXS: Kernel and C Programming
  164. 2016-03-17 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [nylug-talk] Ubuntu,
  165. 2016-03-17 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [nylug-talk] Ubuntu,
  166. 2016-03-17 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Ubuntu,
  167. 2016-03-17 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [notices-at-slashdotmedia.com: SlashdotMedia - Fair
  168. 2016-03-17 ruben safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Compiler positions available for week ending
  169. 2016-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Technight Sunday at 5PM
  170. 2016-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Brooklyn Job and Coding Oppurtunities
  171. 2016-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd:
  172. 2016-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] fishing sunday instead of tech
  173. 2016-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Linux Journal Weekly News - March 18, 2015
  174. 2016-03-18 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] fishing sunday instead of tech
  175. 2016-03-18 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] the ongoing feuds of Wikipedia
  176. 2016-03-18 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] the ongoing feuds of Wikipedia
  177. 2016-03-19 Paul Li <paul.li.nyc-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 6, Issue 41
  178. 2016-03-19 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] DC-Baltimore Perl Workshop: 4 weeks away
  179. 2016-03-19 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYC Perl6 Beginners Study Group: where do we meet
  180. 2016-03-19 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 6, Issue 41
  181. 2016-03-18 From: "Linux Journal" <noreply-at-lists.linuxjournal.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Linux Journal Weekly News - March 18, 2015
  182. 2016-03-20 ruben <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 6, Issue 41
  183. 2016-03-21 Gabor Szabo <gabor-at-szabgab.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [Perlweekly] #243 - The FOSDEM videos are out!
  184. 2016-03-21 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Kernel Workshop announcement
  185. 2016-03-21 From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)" <Sabin.Mancini-at-dfs.ny.gov> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] fishing sunday instead of tech: This is only a
  186. 2016-03-21 Pharmacist eLink <communications-at-pharmacistelink.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] CVS Settles Pharmacists' Overtime Claims for $2.35
  187. 2016-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Now published: The SP theory of intelligence:
  188. 2016-03-22 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Reminder for CSA Mar 25 event-Influence of
  189. 2016-03-22 From: "Ruben.Safir" <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] debian kernel code
  190. 2016-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] sourdough
  191. 2016-03-23 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] FBI and Hacking the iphone
  192. 2016-03-23 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] sourdough
  193. 2016-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Research Day at NJIT - Tue Mar. 29, 2016,
  194. 2016-03-24 Ruben Safir <ruben.safir-at-my.liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Getting rid of it
  195. 2016-03-24 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Getting rid of it
  196. 2016-03-24 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [security-announce] openSUSE-SU-2016:0876-1:
  197. 2016-03-24 From: =?utf-8?Q?MIT=20Digital=20Learning?= <MITxonedX-at-mit.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] =?utf-8?q?Join_Us_at_MIT_to_Discuss_the_Future_of?=
  198. 2016-03-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] technight Announcement for Sunday
  199. 2016-03-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Wired and Privacy News
  200. 2016-03-28 Paul Li <paul.li.nyc-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 6, Issue 53
  201. 2016-03-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 6, Issue 53
  202. 2016-03-28 Asia Suarez <as9795-at-nyu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 6, Issue 53
  203. 2016-03-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] team learning
  204. 2016-03-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 6, Issue 53
  205. 2016-03-28 From: "[RSS/Feed] nixCraft: Linux Tips, Hacks, Tutorials, Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] nixCraft Linux / UNIX Newsletter
  206. 2016-03-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Kernel Compiles tonight
  207. 2016-03-29 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Gradle Summit June 23-24 in Palo Alto CA
  208. 2016-03-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] [nylug-talk] Fwd: Kernel Workshop announcement
  209. 2016-03-30 opensuse-security-at-opensuse.org Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] [security-announce] SUSE-SU-2016:0909-1: important:
  210. 2016-03-31 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Best of March - Save 50% on Top Ebooks & Video

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