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From: Ruben I Safir
To: Jonathan Bober
Cc: Ruben I Safir , hangout-at-nylxs.com
Subject: Re: [hangout] Washington DC Pages
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Two minor things
Fix the links to the new link that are on the events page. Might as well
add Washignton to the list on all three pages :)
The links should be on top
On 2002.04.05 18:20 Jonathan Bober wrote:
> You want this writeup, (perhaps without the "Hello...") reproduced below?
> Hello ALL NYLXSers, NY Fair Users, and hard working volunteers of all
> other local free software organizations.
> I want to give full and proper credit in public to everyone for their
> dedication, hard work, and focused attention to the great and
> important fair use and free software issues of our day. I can not
> express in any way or make clear to those who are not part of our
> group, just how hard these people work, how dedicated their actions
> are, and the great good they are achieving in paving the way for Free
> Software, and an free open society in the digital age.
> However, understanding that, I want to give a small picture of their hard
> work and what was accomplished on the Washington trip.
> Richard Weinberg, Vice-President of NYLXS, got a phone call from me about
> 1:00 pm the day before we were to go to DC. I was in a panic. I had
> forgotten that the banks were closed on Presidents' Day and it seemed
> possible that we would not be able to get the cash needed to go to DC.
> Richard was up in Westchester, and I told him the situation. He
> volunteered his Credit Card and Driver's License to drive us down. To do
> this, he immediately left for NYC and called me when he arrived in NYC.
> Marcus Conti, another board member, was working on the specific details of
> getting a van. Until that was known, we had no idea if we were going to be
> able to get to DC. By the time Richard hit NYC, Marcus had the reservation
> made, and everything was ready for the morning. The first crisis was over.
> At midnight that night, half the mailing list was abuzz about not having
> the details for the trip (although they were posted on the Calender). At
> 12:30 am the morning of the trip, I'm on the phone, making sure everyone is
> together, and set for leaving at 8:30 am. At 7:30 am, Richard shows up at
> my door in Flatbush, and we head to Boro Park to get the truck. Everything
> goes smoothly, and we drive the van to my house. Everyone is just about
> ready, and Paul Rodriguez, Joe Grastara, Seth Johnson, Forrest Mars,
> Richard Weinberg, and I (Ruben Safir), are all packed up and ready to go.
> Richard puts in a heroic driving effort, ten hours in the day, and we get
> down to the Baltimore Area, where I try to call down to DC and remind them
> of our appointment with the Staff member from Weiner's Office, Lamar
> Robertson, who is in charge of staff work on Intellectual Property for
> Representative Weiner. Weiner is on the IP subcommittee of the Judiciary
> Committee of the house. We call information on the cell phone, and
> information never HEARD of Congress in a city called Washington DC, let
> alone any individual representatives. So we call the NYC office and have
> them patch us to the Washington Office. Our direct phone line to Lamar's
> office is getting a recording. So we try to get to the staff. Lamar is
> home with his new born baby doing emergency child care. So finally the
> Representative Weiners Chief of Staff, Kevin A. Ryan, meets with us. We
> meet for about an hour and a half, in Weiner's office, the crowd sitting
> around the table. We laid out all our Software issues, and Fair Use
> issues, we discussed the DMCA, how Free Software is under assault legally,
> how libraries are affected, how my playing an MP3 on my Picture Book with
> GNU/Linux can be considered a felony under the DMCA in the Future,
> Pat Schroeder and world hunger, and Vital Books and NYU. We request that
> Representative Weiner become more outspoken on this issue, and align
> himself with Boucher. And as we leave, Lamar Robertson invites us to his
> home in Maryland. Walking out of the office, Paul looks up and sees a Tivo
> TV system on top of the door. Paul points it out, and Kevin Ryan says "The
> Congressman loves the TiVo.". We underscored that the TiVo is exactly the
> kind of fair use device, which runs free software, and which is being torn
> apart by the current copyright standards, and the DMCA.
> We take Lamar up on his offer. We pick up 2 bottles of Chivas Regal and
> head to his home. We spend 4 hours there with Lamar and his wife. Lamar
> has printed out an article from the New York times on the Supreme court
> case involving the Sony Bono extension of Copyright, and we cover almost
> the whole gamut of issues in detail. Each of our members got a chance to
> talk, and express their positions. We point out that his printing out the
> article is a fair use of information and copyrighted material. We discuss
> the political hurdles to fair use and Free Software in the future. And we
> discuss the inner working of the sub-committee. I give Lamar a big Bear
> Hug and an invitation to visit my home in Brooklyn, and we left knowing we
> have made good friends in DC. I think we will have a long and effective
> relationship with the Congressman in the future. I expect that we will be
> going down to DC again in the future to testify and give support to their
> efforts on the IP subcommittee.
> We now need someone to followup with a thank you letter, and we need to
> sharpen our issues to specific legislative requests.
> On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 17:10:54 -0500
> Ruben I Safir wrote:
> > That's it, but we have a writeup in the mailing list
> > On 2002.04.05 17:03 Jonathan Bober wrote:
> > >
> > > ugh. I started last weekend and then got delayed. I will have it done
> > > by sometime tomorrow, certainly.
> > >
> > > Are there any pictures other than those that are under
> > > images/washington? There aren't too many there.
> > >
> > > Jon.
> > >
> > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2002 16:14:30 -0500 (EST)
> > > Ruben I Safir wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > What's the status of these pages Jon?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ruben
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Brooklyn Linux Solutions
http://www.mrbrklyn.com - Consulting
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http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software
http://www.nyfairuse.org - The foundation of Democracy
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive or stories and articles from around the net
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/mp3/dr.mp3 - Imagine my surprise when I saw you...
http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/downtown.html - See the New Downtown Brooklyn....
New Yorker Linux Users Scene
Fair Use -
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