|FROM ||Ron Guerin
|SUBJECT ||Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Charter Issues
|Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 03/05/2012 11:50 PM, Ron Guerin wrote:
>> You know very well that at this point,
>> anything I think is a good thing, they're ideologically opposed to. So
>> really, my being there could only impede the process.
> Un FUcking BELIEVABLE
I get that you want me there. But there is absolutely no point to it.
Any charter that didn't terminate the membership status of most of the
members and that doesn't leave the Gang deciding who gets to be one is
never going to be accepted. The trotting out of the lawyer and the
constant bringing up of one made that very clear.
You want to pretend you're dealing with decent people with good
intentions, that's up to you. If this is your way of establishing in a
"proof" sense that they won't do the right thing, this is just asking
too much of everyone, yourself included. It's too high a price to pay.
I am reminded of the wise words of Ruth Shanen who said the correct
thing to do in situations like this is form a new group. Ruth surely
wasn't thinking of heists when she said that, but the essential wisdom
remains. You can't save NYLUG from the people who've already forever
tarnished its reputation, and I think it's expecting too much of Aaron
to expect him to refuse to turn the domains over to them. I have heard
from enough people now to know that the next step is going to be be when
some of those people form a new group. Trying to get dishonorable
people to behave honorably is a waste of resources.