|FROM ||Ron Guerin
|SUBJECT ||Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] trying to save NYLUG
|Ruben Safir wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 09:10:11AM -0400, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
>> I'm having flash backs of when school district 79 asked me if NYLXS had a
>> PHP curiculum.
> All good and well, but I rememeber also sitting at the library on Leroy
> Street with everyone having a chance to have their input with Michael
> acting as a Chair and about 20 people present after Jay threw a huff and
> walked out, and there was a long civil discussion, a motion and a vote
> to incorperate NYLUG and to create a charter. And all your guys did was
> do the same thing that ole crazy Jay did, after a few weeks you threw a
> temper tantrum and walked out, leaving nobody but Brian, Sunny, Peter, Rob, and
> Brian and a Lawyer to make the charter.
> So Sunny must have learned something that everyone else failed to learn,
> which is not to run out the door in a huff.
> There is no Coup at this point, Ron. YOU fucking HANDED NYLUG to them on a
> silver platter, and let me down in a big way.
> You should be ashamed, and I'm a total idiot and should have known
> better. It is so much easier to piss on my leg on the hangout mailing
> list then to do the real work that is necessary when handling
> contentious political situations in an adult way. I've seen this act
> out before and I have no idea why I thought that it would play out
> better this time. I just thought 20 year of liing experience might make
> people mature. But it is ture what they say, people don't change.
I'm equally disappointed in your role, so we're even. IMO, you were
helping serve it on that platter to them. You continually denigrated
the memberships of NYLUG's members, a status they've held since 1999.
So don't tell me I'm responsible. You can't give something to people
who have already stolen it. Even now you're legitimizing them. Pat
yourself on the back.