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DATE 2014-09-01

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MESSAGE
DATE 2014-09-07
FROM Ron Guerin
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Get_Started_With_Scribus:1
On 9/7/2014 11:30 AM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> Quark is dead you only ever see it on very old computers.
> as far as illustrator its just not there yet I wish it was but its
> just not. That said its starting to get closer but it still has a long
> way to go.
> the big selling point is its free speech software and has all of the
> good things that come with using free speech software.

I use it, and like it. But I doubt it's better than the proprietary
stuff in any way. If it is, I wouldn't mind hearing about that. I
think though that's beside the point, because people running Macs and
Windows either bought or pirated the proprietary stuff they use (at
work) and aren't interested in something else (which if it's work
related is understandable). It's mostly the shrinking number of us that
use Linux desktops who need to know that it's usable now.

As far as advocacy goes, I agree that its main feature is that it's Free
Software, and should be pitched as part of a Free Software desktop.
Standalone though, nobody's going to switch desktops for it.

I am becoming worried that the day is coming when there won't be a Linux
desktop anymore. Nearly all the people I know who used to run one uses
a Mac now, and the people who are left are doing abominable things like
Gnome3, which seems to be a plot to get people to stop using Linux desktops.

- Ron

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  7. 2014-09-02 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Get_Started_With_Scribus:1
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