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DATE 2014-09-18
FROM Ruben
SUBJECT Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: lost directory indexes



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Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:52:58 -0400
From: Ruben Safir
To: Rick Myers , embperl-at-perl.apache.org,
modperl-at-perl.apache.org
Cc: Ruben Safir
Subject: Re: lost directory indexes
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:)

You put almost as much effort into this as I, and I have to admit, this
is fairly fustrating, and it is just an old bug, one that should
have been resolved long ago. And I think the bug is in apache, not
mod_perl, but I could be wrong. I was going to, on my next attempt on
this, try recompiling the apache and modperl code with some alterations
but then I discovered that I might not have correct information.

Is it that mod_dir has to run first BEFORE embperl
or does embperl have to run first, which is what
we have been concluding.

I think mod_dir has to run FIRST... why?

Because if you get a directory, it needs to translate it to an html file
FIRST, fetched anded off to embperl and mod_perl.

My regular perl module though needs to go FIRST and then hand off to
mod_dir. Why? Because it is examining the url for nastiness. Once it
is ok, it should hand off to mod_dir... which seems to be what is
broken.

When I run embperl, which will only work with

sethandler perl-script, and never with addhandler: see below
it functions fine until I add the mod_perl module I wrote. So
mod_dir is probably supposed to be sliced between them.


ServerAdmin ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
DocumentRoot "/usr/local/apache/htdocs/nylxs"
ServerName www.nylxs.com
DirectoryIndex index.html
PerlModule Embperl
Embperl_UseEnv on
ErrorLog logs/nylxs_error_log
CustomLog logs/nylxs_access_log common

Options Indexes ExecCGI
DirectoryIndex index.html

SetHandler perl-script
# PerlResponseHandler URL_BLOCK
PerlHandler Embperl

AllowOverride None
Order allow,deny
Allow from all





When I use AddHanlder with my custom mod_perl url module, the mod_dir
stuff works and it seems to handoff to mod_dir correctly

For example:

ServerAdmin ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com
DocumentRoot "/usr/local/apache/htdocs"
ServerName www.mrbrklyn.com
Options Indexes
AddHandler perl-script *
PerlTransHandler +URL_BLOCK

AddHandler perl-script *
PerlHandler Embperl


Options +Indexes +FollowSymLinks


# AddHandler perl-script *
# PerlTransHandler URL_BLOCK


Deny from All

ErrorLog logs/error_log
CustomLog logs/access_log common


~~~~~~~~~~~~``

Here, embperl silently fails (see http://www.mrbrklyn.com and the
localtime command is visable).
the URL_BLOCK works (try http://www.mrbrklyn.com/////index.html)
mod_dir functions
try: http://www.mrbrklyn.com/images/


On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 02:15:43AM -0400, Rick Myers wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 09:18:38PM -0400, Ruben Safir wrote:
> > On 09/17/2014 03:08 PM, Rick Myers wrote:
> > > o, just declining from the perl response simply drops you off
> > > into the void since there are no other responses even set up.
> > >
> > > Does that make sense? I hope so. :-)
> >
> >
> > that has been my assessment thusly...
>
> Just for fun, I dusted off the old mod_perl machine and took a stab at
> this.
>
> If I put a new Location section in an existing VirtualHost, I got the
> same sort of result you're seeing. That is, mod_perl above the
> directory, mod_perl below the directory, but a 500 error on the
> directory itself.
>
> The 500 was because it was trying to run the Perl code. And that was
> running Template, which didn't like being handed a directory.
>
> No matter what I did though, I couldn't figure out how to get a
> directory index. I tried Trans, Fixup, MapToStorage, returning OK,
> returning DECLINED - I even read the Fine Manual - all with the same
> result. It insisted on running the Perl code.
>
> Even after I gave up, it still bugged me. I eventually got around to
> setting up a new VirtualHost. Like so...
>
>
>
> ServerName www.example.com
> ServerAlias example.com
> ServerAdmin webmaster-at-example.com
>
> DocumentRoot /home/dev/perl/lib/Experimental/public
>
>
> Order deny,allow
> Deny from all
> Options None
> AllowOverride None
>

>
>
> Order allow,deny
> Allow from all
> Options Indexes
> AllowOverride None
>

>
>
> SetHandler modperl
> PerlResponseHandler Experimental::ResponseHandler
>

>
>

>
> And a module...
>
> package Experimental::ResponseHandler;
> use strict;
> use warnings;
>
> use Apache2::Const -compile => qw/OK DECLINED/;
>
> sub handler {
> my $r = shift;
> my $f = $r->filename;
> warn "FILE: $f\n";
>
> if ( -d $f ) {
> warn "DIR!\n";
> return Apache2::Const::DECLINED;
> }
>
> $r->print( 'Hi!' );
> return Apache2::Const::OK;
> }
>
> 1;
>
> And the index on /mp worked perfectly. Files below the directory got the
> Perl-generated response, and files above didn't trigger the handler.
>
> >From there I tried to break it, without much success. The only thing I
> did that made any difference was to add a section below the
> existing /mp section. Even then, it gave me a 403 and logged 'index
> forbidden by Options'.
>
> So all I can say is, Beats Me.
>
> I do know though, I've pulled my hair out too many times trying to
> figure out what eventually wound up being configuration merging
> problems. It's pretty whacked sometimes.
>
> If you want to track it down further, go for it. I really don't care so
> much anymore after moving most of my stuff to Nginx/Dancer. I just
> thought I'd save you a few follicles. ;-)
>
> HTH
>
> Cheers,
> Rick
>

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  80. 2014-09-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wietse-at-porcupine.org: Postfix syntax overhaul, snapshot 20140921]
  81. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  82. 2014-09-23 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  83. 2014-09-23 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  84. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  85. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] more systemd tutorials
  86. 2014-09-23 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  87. 2014-09-23 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  88. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Puppets?
  89. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  90. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio keeping you to your councel
  91. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  92. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Negitive binary representations
  93. 2014-09-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy Rosh Hashona
  94. 2014-09-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] core dump
  95. 2014-09-28 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wolfgang-at-rosenauer.org: Re: [opensuse] Running old version]
  96. 2014-09-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wolfgang-at-rosenauer.org: Re: [opensuse] Running
  97. 2014-09-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] opensuse 13.1
  98. 2014-09-30 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] opensuse 13.1

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