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DATE 2014-09-17
FROM From: "Paul Robert Marino"
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
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Rubin

Well Gnome was never that good. If you think it was just think=
back to the first Gnome developers conference. 
I remember asking =
why they had their own host name lookup caching daemon and getting told tha=
t dispute the fact that it used a huge amount of ram and CPU for what it di=
d it responded 2ms faster than nscd. Oddly enough it only got those numbers=
when used in combination with nscd and when properly tuned nscd was and is=
still faster. My best memories of that conference was cowering in a corner=
with you the guys from Novel several other NYLXS members and someone else =
who shall remain nameless with bottles of Scotch, then building new firewal=
l for the place because we were over running their business class appliance=
s capabilities. And that was a fun build by drunken NYLXS comity if I remem=
ber correctly we spent 15 minutes debating about the mount points and the r=
esult was the thing had at least 6 partitions each using a different filesy=
stem optimized to the role of the subdirectory tree. The actual firewall an=
d dhcp server only took about 2 minutes to configure LOL.

Rant: By t=
he way any one who has issues with nscd crashing its because you are using =
the default config which is tuned for desktops which aren't expected to run=
for years at a time. Turn off shared and persistent then double the record=
size on each of the databases and you will be pleasantly shocked at its st=
ability and statistical reporting capabilities to help with further fine tu=
ning.There is even a way to easily detecting its not responding just check =
the statistics which only works if you turn off shared mode (shared mode is=
IPC via persistent memory mapped file instead of sockets connecting to thr=
eads ) any way and I've never seen it freeze up when shared mode was turned=
off.


While I don't agree with what some Distros are doing namel=
y systemd other distros are doing some really inventive useful replacements=
for rc.d and the system V init structure. Frankly its long over due howeve=
r I admit a lot of it especially systemd is far too desktop centric and ter=
rible for mission critical and or secure servers.

As for how the dis=
tros package Apache. I rarely say this so definitively but you are wrong. M=
ost I'd the distributions do an excellent job.  And as I said in a pre=
vious post on this string you can compile the module independently you don'=
t need to recompile all of apache. Further more I don't know of a distro wh=
ich doesn't include mod_rewrite its just your custom compiled version that =
has this issue, and you can fix it easily.

Finally the reason you ar=
e ripping out all of this stuff is you still caught in a very UNIX design w=
ay of thinking. Remember what GNU stands for its multiple philosophies its =
free speech software which takes the bet of the UNIX history and moves beyo=
nd the stale old bogged down in closed comity standards which cater to the =
lowest common denominator design concept and don't take what the actual use=
rs ideas into account. Now you are not the only one caught in this way of t=
hinking, foe example I only convinced one of my relatives who is a fantasti=
c well respected SA a few years ago that using the conf.d directory in apac=
he 2 made  more sense than a monolithic config after years of on and o=
ff debate.

Now I will admit I don't like 




pan style=3D"font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;">

id=3D"signature">
12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP Pre3

=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; ">
t" style=3D"width:75%">On Sep 16, 2014 9:53 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-pa=
nix.com> wrote:

=0D
=0D
that only works if it is co=
mpiled=0D
> =0D
> Okay... what distribution is this?=0D
>=
=0D
> If apache wasn't compiled with support to allow using mod_rewri=
te=0D
> then it sounds like it'll require recompiling the package to =
support=0D
> it.=0D
>=0D
> -- Chris=0D
>=0D
>=
=0D
>=0D
=0D
=0D
I'm sorry for being so grumpy about this. =
I was deeply involved with=0D
another related problemand I only posted t=
he rewrite article for future=0D
reference or interest to anyone who is =
running apache. The article=0D
makes good first line of defense sense i=
n protecting your system.=0D
=0D
For my purposes, I don't want to spe=
nd the time learning the rules for=0D
mod_rewrite and opted for use of m=
odperl. I made that decision rather=0D
than compiling mod_rewrite. I'd=
rather spend time learning more about=0D
modperl, and actually I learne=
d more than I thought I would, as I'm=0D
looking at recompiling mod_perl=
in order to get around some issues,=0D
which also entails getting right=
into the mod_perl source code. Maybe=0D
I'll right a custom mod_perl h=
andler in C when I'm done with this hayride.=0D
=0D
Meanwhile, I just=
had an eye opening lecture in my computer architecture=0D
class on bina=
ry numbers, octs and hexes, which taught some nifty=0D
algorithms that I=
never saw before to transform the different base=0D
numbers. Then, the=
y moved into signed bytes, and 3 other types of=0D
binary representation=
s of negative numbers that I never saw before and=0D
actually wonder why=
anyone thought of them.=0D
=0D
As a fact though, I don't like how an=
y of the dirstros put apache=0D
together. I don't like how they put na=
med together, dhcpcd, or even=0D
routing. It is all spaghetti code. Ev=
ery time I install a system,=0D
lately, I end up ripping it apart and pu=
tting it back together again. =0D
And now they are screwing with rc.d wh=
ich is very bad. And I don't care=0D
why they are doing it, anymore tha=
n i care why they are fucking up=0D
gnome...I just want them to to stop.=
=0D
=0D
Ruben=0D
=0D

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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Rubin

Well Gnome was never that good. If you think it was just think=
back to the first Gnome developers conference. 
I remember asking =
why they had their own host name lookup caching daemon and getting told tha=
t dispute the fact that it used a huge amount of ram and CPU for what it di=
d it responded 2ms faster than nscd. Oddly enough it only got those numbers=
when used in combination with nscd and when properly tuned nscd was and is=
still faster. My best memories of that conference was cowering in a corner=
with you the guys from Novel several other NYLXS members and someone else =
who shall remain nameless with bottles of Scotch, then building new firewal=
l for the place because we were over running their business class appliance=
s capabilities. And that was a fun build by drunken NYLXS comity if I remem=
ber correctly we spent 15 minutes debating about the mount points and the r=
esult was the thing had at least 6 partitions each using a different filesy=
stem optimized to the role of the subdirectory tree. The actual firewall an=
d dhcp server only took about 2 minutes to configure LOL.

Rant: By t=
he way any one who has issues with nscd crashing its because you are using =
the default config which is tuned for desktops which aren't expected to run=
for years at a time. Turn off shared and persistent then double the record=
size on each of the databases and you will be pleasantly shocked at its st=
ability and statistical reporting capabilities to help with further fine tu=
ning.There is even a way to easily detecting its not responding just check =
the statistics which only works if you turn off shared mode (shared mode is=
IPC via persistent memory mapped file instead of sockets connecting to thr=
eads ) any way and I've never seen it freeze up when shared mode was turned=
off.


While I don't agree with what some Distros are doing namel=
y systemd other distros are doing some really inventive useful replacements=
for rc.d and the system V init structure. Frankly its long over due howeve=
r I admit a lot of it especially systemd is far too desktop centric and ter=
rible for mission critical and or secure servers.

As for how the dis=
tros package Apache. I rarely say this so definitively but you are wrong. M=
ost I'd the distributions do an excellent job.  And as I said in a pre=
vious post on this string you can compile the module independently you don'=
t need to recompile all of apache. Further more I don't know of a distro wh=
ich doesn't include mod_rewrite its just your custom compiled version that =
has this issue, and you can fix it easily.

Finally the reason you ar=
e ripping out all of this stuff is you still caught in a very UNIX design w=
ay of thinking. Remember what GNU stands for its multiple philosophies its =
free speech software which takes the bet of the UNIX history and moves beyo=
nd the stale old bogged down in closed comity standards which cater to the =
lowest common denominator design concept and don't take what the actual use=
rs ideas into account. Now you are not the only one caught in this way of t=
hinking, foe example I only convinced one of my relatives who is a fantasti=
c well respected SA a few years ago that using the conf.d directory in apac=
he 2 made  more sense than a monolithic config after years of on and o=
ff debate.

Now I will admit I don't like 




pan style=3D"font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif;">

id=3D"signature">
12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP Pre3

=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; ">
t" style=3D"width:75%">On Sep 16, 2014 9:53 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-pa=
nix.com> wrote:

=0D
=0D
that only works if it is co=
mpiled=0D
> =0D
> Okay... what distribution is this?=0D
>=
=0D
> If apache wasn't compiled with support to allow using mod_rewri=
te=0D
> then it sounds like it'll require recompiling the package to =
support=0D
> it.=0D
>=0D
> -- Chris=0D
>=0D
>=
=0D
>=0D
=0D
=0D
I'm sorry for being so grumpy about this. =
I was deeply involved with=0D
another related problemand I only posted t=
he rewrite article for future=0D
reference or interest to anyone who is =
running apache. The article=0D
makes good first line of defense sense i=
n protecting your system.=0D
=0D
For my purposes, I don't want to spe=
nd the time learning the rules for=0D
mod_rewrite and opted for use of m=
odperl. I made that decision rather=0D
than compiling mod_rewrite. I'd=
rather spend time learning more about=0D
modperl, and actually I learne=
d more than I thought I would, as I'm=0D
looking at recompiling mod_perl=
in order to get around some issues,=0D
which also entails getting right=
into the mod_perl source code. Maybe=0D
I'll right a custom mod_perl h=
andler in C when I'm done with this hayride.=0D
=0D
Meanwhile, I just=
had an eye opening lecture in my computer architecture=0D
class on bina=
ry numbers, octs and hexes, which taught some nifty=0D
algorithms that I=
never saw before to transform the different base=0D
numbers. Then, the=
y moved into signed bytes, and 3 other types of=0D
binary representation=
s of negative numbers that I never saw before and=0D
actually wonder why=
anyone thought of them.=0D
=0D
As a fact though, I don't like how an=
y of the dirstros put apache=0D
together. I don't like how they put na=
med together, dhcpcd, or even=0D
routing. It is all spaghetti code. Ev=
ery time I install a system,=0D
lately, I end up ripping it apart and pu=
tting it back together again. =0D
And now they are screwing with rc.d wh=
ich is very bad. And I don't care=0D
why they are doing it, anymore tha=
n i care why they are fucking up=0D
gnome...I just want them to to stop.=
=0D
=0D
Ruben=0D
=0D

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  29. 2014-09-07 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Get_Started_With_Scribus:1
  30. 2014-09-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Great Lectures
  31. 2014-09-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] startup demonstration show
  32. 2014-09-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oracle STILL dumb as still
  33. 2014-09-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Re: Letter of recomendation
  34. 2014-09-08 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [christopher.league-at-liu.edu: Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Oracle STILL dumb
  35. 2014-09-09 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] LIU Free Software
  36. 2014-09-12 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Advanced linux privacy
  37. 2014-09-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: realloc limitations
  38. 2014-09-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: realloc limitations
  39. 2014-09-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  40. 2014-09-14 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  41. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  42. 2014-09-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  43. 2014-09-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  44. 2014-09-15 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  45. 2014-09-15 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  46. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: lost directory indexes]
  47. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: lost directory indexes]
  48. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  49. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  50. 2014-09-15 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  51. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  52. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  53. 2014-09-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  54. 2014-09-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  55. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  56. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: lost directory indexes]
  57. 2014-09-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  58. 2014-09-15 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  59. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  60. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  61. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: AddHandle perl-script *]
  62. 2014-09-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: AddHandle perl-script *]
  63. 2014-09-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  64. 2014-09-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Why Life Is A Lot More Fun When We Stop Trying to Be Perfect
  65. 2014-09-16 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Medical Update 9/16; Health Scare
  66. 2014-09-17 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  67. 2014-09-17 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  68. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  69. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Medical Update 9/16; Health Scare
  70. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  71. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Binary Calculator
  72. 2014-09-17 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  73. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  74. 2014-09-18 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: lost directory indexes
  75. 2014-09-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  76. 2014-09-20 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Systemd nightmare
  77. 2014-09-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: realloc limitations
  78. 2014-09-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cellular Linux Revolution
  79. 2014-09-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cellular Linux Revolution
  80. 2014-09-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wietse-at-porcupine.org: Postfix syntax overhaul, snapshot 20140921]
  81. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  82. 2014-09-23 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  83. 2014-09-23 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  84. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  85. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] more systemd tutorials
  86. 2014-09-23 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  87. 2014-09-23 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  88. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Puppets?
  89. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  90. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio keeping you to your councel
  91. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  92. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Negitive binary representations
  93. 2014-09-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy Rosh Hashona
  94. 2014-09-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] core dump
  95. 2014-09-28 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wolfgang-at-rosenauer.org: Re: [opensuse] Running old version]
  96. 2014-09-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wolfgang-at-rosenauer.org: Re: [opensuse] Running
  97. 2014-09-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] opensuse 13.1
  98. 2014-09-30 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] opensuse 13.1

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