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MESSAGE
DATE 2014-09-15
FROM From: "Paul Robert Marino"
SUBJECT Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
From owner-hangout-outgoing-at-mrbrklyn.com Mon Sep 15 17:37:08 2014
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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:36:58 -0400
From: "Paul Robert Marino"
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Wow did I start a flame war lol

Here is some clarification

1)=
the standard Red Hat packages do include mod_rewrite and so do SuSE's. Thi=
s is a Rubin over tweaking problem much like the fact that his copy mutt do=
esn't support HTML emails because he purposely broke it support for them :-=
). Love you Rubin lol.

2) you can independently compile apache modul=
es without recompiling all of Apache since the release of Apache 2.0 all yo=
u need is the development libraries installed and the source code of the mo=
dule. That was one of the key cool new features in Apache 2.


On =
a side note mod_rewrite always makes me nostalgic because its one of the fe=
w modules in Apache 2 that still uses the Apache 1.x syntax. The Apache 1 s=
yntax reminds me of the 90's when I was foolish greenhorn junior SA because=
I made the foolish mistake of memorizing the syntax thinking it would neve=
r change LOL. When Apache 2 came out I vowed to never make that mistake aga=
in.


pan>
nt-size: 12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP Pre3

n style=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; ">
=3D"left" style=3D"width:75%">On Sep 15, 2014 3:44 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbr=
klyn-at-panix.com> wrote:

On 09/15/2014 03:24 PM, Chris Knad=
le wrote:=0D
> Nobody is good enough to make their own package "cold"=
; there's work going on =0D
> within Debian to try to get to the poin=
t where this is possible for /simple/ =0D
> packages, but for non-tri=
vial packages I don't know anybody that could start =0D
> from scratc=
h and make a good package. =0D
=0D
=0D
I'm trying to fix something=
that I can GUARANTEE you that the debian=0D
package=0D
developers wo=
uldn't know their ass from their elbows deep into the code of=0D
modperl=
and your prostylizing me utter bullshit, Chris.=0D
=0D
I will never =
use a Mac because their shit is Broken=0D
I will never use Debian becaus=
e their shit is broken=0D
=0D
So now you can tell someone else how gr=
eat debian is.=0D
=0D
=0D
And yes Chris, if I wasn't lazy, I would=
set my apache configuration in=0D
my own package, like many other sysad=
mins so. But apache's core=0D
packaging is=0D
so good and so flexibl=
e, that I don't see the point.=0D
=0D
I need to know how to hand off =
a perlresponsehandler modperl module to=0D
the apache=0D
indexes modu=
le because a simple decline doesn't pick up the fancy indexing=0D
in the=
apache response cycle. Traditionally modperl guys get around this=0D
p=
roblem by attaching their scripts to <file *html></file> in htt=
pd.conf=0D
I need this to work on the entire directory tree without losi=
ng fancy=0D
indexing.=0D
=0D
That is what I need to KNOW. If you =
know that answer, fine. If you=0D
don't then=0D
don't blow smoke at =
me.=0D
=0D
=0D
Finally, I sent that article out because I thought =
it had some good and=0D
valid information=0D
in it on securing your w=
ebserver through apache rewrite.=0D
=0D
Ruben=0D
=0D

--Alternative_=_Boundary_=_1410817016--

--Alternative_=_Boundary_=_1410817016
Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Wow did I start a flame war lol

Here is some clarification

1)=
the standard Red Hat packages do include mod_rewrite and so do SuSE's. Thi=
s is a Rubin over tweaking problem much like the fact that his copy mutt do=
esn't support HTML emails because he purposely broke it support for them :-=
). Love you Rubin lol.

2) you can independently compile apache modul=
es without recompiling all of Apache since the release of Apache 2.0 all yo=
u need is the development libraries installed and the source code of the mo=
dule. That was one of the key cool new features in Apache 2.


On =
a side note mod_rewrite always makes me nostalgic because its one of the fe=
w modules in Apache 2 that still uses the Apache 1.x syntax. The Apache 1 s=
yntax reminds me of the 90's when I was foolish greenhorn junior SA because=
I made the foolish mistake of memorizing the syntax thinking it would neve=
r change LOL. When Apache 2 came out I vowed to never make that mistake aga=
in.


pan>
nt-size: 12px;color: #999999;">-- Sent from my HP Pre3

n style=3D"color:navy; font-family:Prelude, Verdana, san-serif; ">
=3D"left" style=3D"width:75%">On Sep 15, 2014 3:44 PM, Ruben Safir <mrbr=
klyn-at-panix.com> wrote:

On 09/15/2014 03:24 PM, Chris Knad=
le wrote:=0D
> Nobody is good enough to make their own package "cold"=
; there's work going on =0D
> within Debian to try to get to the poin=
t where this is possible for /simple/ =0D
> packages, but for non-tri=
vial packages I don't know anybody that could start =0D
> from scratc=
h and make a good package. =0D
=0D
=0D
I'm trying to fix something=
that I can GUARANTEE you that the debian=0D
package=0D
developers wo=
uldn't know their ass from their elbows deep into the code of=0D
modperl=
and your prostylizing me utter bullshit, Chris.=0D
=0D
I will never =
use a Mac because their shit is Broken=0D
I will never use Debian becaus=
e their shit is broken=0D
=0D
So now you can tell someone else how gr=
eat debian is.=0D
=0D
=0D
And yes Chris, if I wasn't lazy, I would=
set my apache configuration in=0D
my own package, like many other sysad=
mins so. But apache's core=0D
packaging is=0D
so good and so flexibl=
e, that I don't see the point.=0D
=0D
I need to know how to hand off =
a perlresponsehandler modperl module to=0D
the apache=0D
indexes modu=
le because a simple decline doesn't pick up the fancy indexing=0D
in the=
apache response cycle. Traditionally modperl guys get around this=0D
p=
roblem by attaching their scripts to <file *html></file> in htt=
pd.conf=0D
I need this to work on the entire directory tree without losi=
ng fancy=0D
indexing.=0D
=0D
That is what I need to KNOW. If you =
know that answer, fine. If you=0D
don't then=0D
don't blow smoke at =
me.=0D
=0D
=0D
Finally, I sent that article out because I thought =
it had some good and=0D
valid information=0D
in it on securing your w=
ebserver through apache rewrite.=0D
=0D
Ruben=0D
=0D

--Alternative_=_Boundary_=_1410817016--

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  39. 2014-09-14 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  40. 2014-09-14 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  41. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  42. 2014-09-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  43. 2014-09-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
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  45. 2014-09-15 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  46. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: lost directory indexes]
  47. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: lost directory indexes]
  48. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  49. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  50. 2014-09-15 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  51. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  52. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  53. 2014-09-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  54. 2014-09-15 Ron Guerin <ron-at-vnetworx.net> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  55. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  56. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: lost directory indexes]
  57. 2014-09-15 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  58. 2014-09-15 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  59. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  60. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  61. 2014-09-15 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: AddHandle perl-script *]
  62. 2014-09-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com: Re: AddHandle perl-script *]
  63. 2014-09-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  64. 2014-09-16 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Why Life Is A Lot More Fun When We Stop Trying to Be Perfect
  65. 2014-09-16 Elfen Magix <elfen_magix-at-yahoo.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Medical Update 9/16; Health Scare
  66. 2014-09-17 From: "Paul Robert Marino" <prmarino1-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  67. 2014-09-17 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  68. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  69. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Medical Update 9/16; Health Scare
  70. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  71. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Binary Calculator
  72. 2014-09-17 Chris Knadle <Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  73. 2014-09-17 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  74. 2014-09-18 Ruben <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: lost directory indexes
  75. 2014-09-19 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Apache Security tips
  76. 2014-09-20 From: <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Systemd nightmare
  77. 2014-09-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Fwd: Re: realloc limitations
  78. 2014-09-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cellular Linux Revolution
  79. 2014-09-21 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Cellular Linux Revolution
  80. 2014-09-22 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wietse-at-porcupine.org: Postfix syntax overhaul, snapshot 20140921]
  81. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  82. 2014-09-23 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  83. 2014-09-23 eminker-at-gmail.com Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] jboss
  84. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  85. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] more systemd tutorials
  86. 2014-09-23 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  87. 2014-09-23 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  88. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Puppets?
  89. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  90. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Radio keeping you to your councel
  91. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] New Linux Lite Machines
  92. 2014-09-23 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Negitive binary representations
  93. 2014-09-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] Happy Rosh Hashona
  94. 2014-09-24 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] core dump
  95. 2014-09-28 mrbrklyn-at-panix.com Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wolfgang-at-rosenauer.org: Re: [opensuse] Running old version]
  96. 2014-09-29 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Fwd: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] [wolfgang-at-rosenauer.org: Re: [opensuse] Running
  97. 2014-09-30 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] opensuse 13.1
  98. 2014-09-30 einker <eminker-at-gmail.com> Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] opensuse 13.1

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