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| DATE | 2014-09-07 |
| FROM | Chris Knadle
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| SUBJECT | Re: [NYLXS - HANGOUT] http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Get_Started_With_Scribus:1
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Greetings.
On Sunday, September 07, 2014 16:10:20 Ruben Safir wrote:
> On 09/07/2014 03:56 PM, Paul Robert Marino wrote:
> > Im still running a Linux desktop for the most part. and I really like
> > XFCE I just wish more people used it because its got a good balance
> > between features you really will use and efficient usage of system
> > resources. I origianlly was using XFCE on my first generation EEEPC
> > but liked it so much I switched all my other desktops shortly
> > afterward and haven't looked back since.
>
> I think that the advantage of the X11 desktop is that you can, or had
> been able to, use anyone you want and switch around when you needed to.
> What has happened with the new Gnome and KDE is that they are following
> the locked down model of computer abuse, and they no longer function
> with each other or anything else.
I'm mostly using KDE4 and sometimes Xfce and Window Maker. When it comes to
anyone new I usually recommend Xfce because it seems to be the best place to
start as far as I'm concerned. Most of the time I use KDE but I often use
programs outside of it such as Geeqie for browsing pictures, because I'm not
entirely happy with the one that comes with KDE, Iceweasel (renamed Firefox)
for browsing, and so on.
With KDE I'm not sure what you mean by 'locked down model' and 'no longer
function with each other' -- there are probably particular instances where
this is true though, so I'm curious to know what you've run into with it if
you recall.
> It has gotten to be an enormous
> problem. That being said, there was a crest of linux desktop usage
> with umbuntu but it not only might be fading, but it might be inherently
> counter productive to broad gnu/linux adoption because it is more locked
> down then any of the traditional systems.
>
> Now here is the weird thing. There might be more people, actually there
> is definitely more people, using linux as a primary interface on their
> digital systems than ever before. And it is the most locked down peice
> of crap that you could ever imagine in the form of android. By default,
> you can't do a damn thing with that OS without prior authorization.
Side-loading apps has gotten popular on Android and I don't recall if one can
do that on a stock phone or if the phone has to be jailbroken or reloaded with
CyanogenMod to accomplish that. I'm particularly curious about this right now
because I'm eying switching phones (and providers) and getting an Andoid
phone, so there are certain things I'd like to know about, like what
limitations there may be, before "making the leap".
> And
> then there is chrome. These things just push 15 years of advanced
> desktop programming aside and shove apps at a buck a piece at you. It
> is like living with Whimpy, from Popeye.
The EULA for Chrome is definitely objectionable; Chromium is the more
acceptable "free" option but doesn't have all of the video codecs and
capabilities that Chrome has.
> regardless. There are some wonderful free software programs out there
> that are ready to use, but try to figure them out without docs? Scribus
> is definitely one and I don't really give a shit how it compares to
> Illustrator. I wouldn't use illustrator if you paid me to learn it and
> it came with dancing girls (which is a twisted way it actually does). I
> want to learn Scribus.
I haven't yet learned Scribus, but I have it loaded because it keeps coming up
as "the best option" for desktop publishing on free/open-source *nix systems.
-- Chris
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Chris Knadle
Chris.Knadle-at-coredump.us
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