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DATE 2016-04-11
FROM From: "Jose A. Rodriguez"
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] networking and fragments
The key here is "before they reach the transport later at the destination". Doesn't say "before they reach the network layer at the destination". Indeed datagram fragments are not reassembled at the intermediate routers. The destination network layer reassembles all the fragments. After reassembly the payload (tcp it udp segment) is extracted and passed to the transport layer.

> On Apr 11, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Ruben Safir wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I'm reading this line in the Ross - Kause textbook "Computer Networking -
> Top-Down Aproach" and it says
>
>
> "The solution is to fragment the data in the IP datagram into two or
> more smaller IP datagrams, encapsulate each of these smaller IP
> datagrams in a separate link-layer frame; and send these frames over
> the outgoing link. Each of these smaller data-grams is referred to as a
> fragment.
>
> Fragments need to be reassembled before they reach the transport layer
> at the destination. Indeed, both TCP and UDP are expecting to receive
> complete, unfragmented segments from the network layer."
>
> I thought that was wrong. They have to be reassembled AT the
> destination, not before that.
>
> ?
>
> Where am I confused, or is this in fact incorrect?
>
> Reuvain
>
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