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DATE 2016-04-21
FROM Ruben Safir
SUBJECT Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Java is just retarted
On 04/21/2016 03:14 PM, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com):
>
>> Since the invention of this thing until today, it continues to be the
>> WORST technology ever invented that is not visual basic.
>
> See .signature file, below.
>
https://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/book/book-Z-H-5.html#%_chap_Temp_2

Foreword

Educators, generals, dieticians, psychologists, and parents program. Armies, students, and some societies are programmed. An assault on large problems employs a succession of programs, most of which spring into existence en route. These programs are rife with issues that appear to be particular to the problem at hand. To appreciate programming as an intellectual activity in its own right you must turn to computer programming; you must read and write computer programs -- many of them. It doesn't matter much what the programs are about or what applications they serve. What does matter is how well they perform and how smoothly they fit with other programs in the creation of still greater programs. The programmer must seek both perfection of part and adequacy of collection. In this book the use of ``program'' is focused on the creation, execution, and study of programs written in a dialect of Lisp for execution on a digital computer. Using Lisp we restrict or limit not what we ma
y program
, but only the notation for our program descriptions.

Our traffic with the subject matter of this book involves us with three foci of phenomena: the human mind, collections of computer programs, and the computer. Every computer program is a model, hatched in the mind, of a real or mental process. These processes, arising from human experience and thought, are huge in number, intricate in detail, and at any time only partially understood. They are modeled to our permanent satisfaction rarely by our computer programs. Thus even though our programs are carefully handcrafted discrete collections of symbols, mosaics of interlocking functions, they continually evolve: we change them as our perception of the model deepens, enlarges, generalizes until the model ultimately attains a metastable place within still another model with which we struggle. The source of the exhilaration associated with computer programming is the continual unfolding within the mind and on the computer of mechanisms expressed as programs and the explosion of per
ception t
hey generate. If art interprets our dreams, the computer executes them in the guise of programs!

For all its power, the computer is a harsh taskmaster. Its programs must be correct, and what we wish to say must be said accurately in every detail. As in every other symbolic activity, we become convinced of program truth through argument. Lisp itself can be assigned a semantics (another model, by the way), and if a program's function can be specified, say, in the predicate calculus, the proof methods of logic can be used to make an acceptable correctness argument. Unfortunately, as programs get large and complicated, as they almost always do, the adequacy, consistency, and correctness of the specifications themselves become open to doubt, so that complete formal arguments of correctness seldom accompany large programs. Since large programs grow from small ones, it is crucial that we develop an arsenal of standard program structures of whose correctness we have become sure -- we call them idioms -- and learn to combine them into larger structures using organizational techni
ques of p
roven value. These techniques are treated at length in this book, and understanding them is essential to participation in the Promethean enterprise called programming. More than anything else, the uncovering and mastery of powerful organizational techniques accelerates our ability to create large, significant programs. Conversely, since writing large programs is very taxing, we are stimulated to invent new methods of reducing the mass of function and detail to be fitted into large programs.

Unlike programs, computers must obey the laws of physics. If they wish to perform rapidly -- a few nanoseconds per state change -- they must transmit electrons only small distances (at most 1 1/2 feet). The heat generated by the huge number of devices so concentrated in space has to be removed. An exquisite engineering art has been developed balancing between multiplicity of function and density of devices. In any event, hardware always operates at a level more primitive than that at which we care to program. The processes that transform our Lisp programs to ``machine'' programs are themselves abstract models which we program. Their study and creation give a great deal of insight into the organizational programs associated with programming arbitrary models. Of course the computer itself can be so modeled. Think of it: the behavior of the smallest physical switching element is modeled by quantum mechanics described by differential equations whose detailed behavior is captured
by numeri
cal approximations represented in computer programs executing on computers composed of ...!

It is not merely a matter of tactical convenience to separately identify the three foci. Even though, as they say, it's all in the head, this logical separation induces an acceleration of symbolic traffic between these foci whose richness, vitality, and potential is exceeded in human experience only by the evolution of life itself. At best, relationships between the foci are metastable. The computers are never large enough or fast enough. Each breakthrough in hardware technology leads to more massive programming enterprises, new organizational principles, and an enrichment of abstract models. Every reader should ask himself periodically ``Toward what end, toward what end?'' -- but do not ask it too often lest you pass up the fun of programming for the constipation of bittersweet philosophy.

Among the programs we write, some (but never enough) perform a precise mathematical function such as sorting or finding the maximum of a sequence of numbers, determining primality, or finding the square root. We call such programs algorithms, and a great deal is known of their optimal behavior, particularly with respect to the two important parameters of execution time and data storage requirements. A programmer should acquire good algorithms and idioms. Even though some programs resist precise specifications, it is the responsibility of the programmer to estimate, and always to attempt to improve, their performance.

Lisp is a survivor, having been in use for about a quarter of a century. Among the active programming languages only Fortran has had a longer life. Both languages have supported the programming needs of important areas of application, Fortran for scientific and engineering computation and Lisp for artificial intelligence. These two areas continue to be important, and their programmers are so devoted to these two languages that Lisp and Fortran may well continue in active use for at least another quarter-century.

Lisp changes. The Scheme dialect used in this text has evolved from the original Lisp and differs from the latter in several important ways, including static scoping for variable binding and permitting functions to yield functions as values. In its semantic structure Scheme is as closely akin to Algol 60 as to early Lisps. Algol 60, never to be an active language again, lives on in the genes of Scheme and Pascal. It would be difficult to find two languages that are the communicating coin of two more different cultures than those gathered around these two languages. Pascal is for building pyramids -- imposing, breathtaking, static structures built by armies pushing heavy blocks into place. Lisp is for building organisms -- imposing, breathtaking, dynamic structures built by squads fitting fluctuating myriads of simpler organisms into place. The organizing principles used are the same in both cases, except for one extraordinarily important difference: The discretionary exportab
le functi
onality entrusted to the individual Lisp programmer is more than an order of magnitude greater than that to be found within Pascal enterprises. Lisp programs inflate libraries with functions whose utility transcends the application that produced them. The list, Lisp's native data structure, is largely responsible for such growth of utility. The simple structure and natural applicability of lists are reflected in functions that are amazingly nonidiosyncratic. In Pascal the plethora of declarable data structures induces a specialization within functions that inhibits and penalizes casual cooperation. It is better to have 100 functions operate on one data structure than to have 10 functions operate on 10 data structures. As a result the pyramid must stand unchanged for a millennium; the organism must evolve or perish.

To illustrate this difference, compare the treatment of material and exercises within this book with that in any first-course text using Pascal. Do not labor under the illusion that this is a text digestible at MIT only, peculiar to the breed found there. It is precisely what a serious book on programming Lisp must be, no matter who the student is or where it is used.

Note that this is a text about programming, unlike most Lisp books, which are used as a preparation for work in artificial intelligence. After all, the critical programming concerns of software engineering and artificial intelligence tend to coalesce as the systems under investigation become larger. This explains why there is such growing interest in Lisp outside of artificial intelligence.

As one would expect from its goals, artificial intelligence research generates many significant programming problems. In other programming cultures this spate of problems spawns new languages. Indeed, in any very large programming task a useful organizing principle is to control and isolate traffic within the task modules via the invention of language. These languages tend to become less primitive as one approaches the boundaries of the system where we humans interact most often. As a result, such systems contain complex language-processing functions replicated many times. Lisp has such a simple syntax and semantics that parsing can be treated as an elementary task. Thus parsing technology plays almost no role in Lisp programs, and the construction of language processors is rarely an impediment to the rate of growth and change of large Lisp systems. Finally, it is this very simplicity of syntax and semantics that is responsible for the burden and freedom borne by all Lisp pro
grammers.
No Lisp program of any size beyond a few lines can be written without being saturated with discretionary functions. Invent and fit; have fits and reinvent! We toast the Lisp programmer who pens his thoughts within nests of parentheses.

Alan J. Perlis
New Haven, Connecticut

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  88. 2016-04-25 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] + behavior in the shell
  89. 2016-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] error: unclosed character literal
  90. 2016-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] error: unclosed character literal
  91. 2016-04-26 Rshana Shurriah <rshanashurriah-at-gmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] error: unclosed character literal
  92. 2016-04-26 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] error: unclosed character literal
  93. 2016-04-26 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] fwiw with errors
  94. 2016-04-26 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Good Morning Sunshine
  95. 2016-04-26 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] heart burn
  96. 2016-04-26 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] error: unclosed character literal
  97. 2016-04-27 IEEE CS Webinars <csconnection-at-computer.org> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Don't forget to register: Is Your DevOps Team
  98. 2016-04-27 Paul Li <paul.li.nyc-at-hotmail.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27
  99. 2016-04-27 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] hangout Digest, Vol 7, Issue 27
  100. 2016-04-27 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Communications Bill
  101. 2016-04-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Communications Bill
  102. 2016-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] AI Conference
  103. 2016-04-28 Ruben Safir <ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] What is a U (other than a letter in the alphabet)
  104. 2016-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Communications Bill
  105. 2016-04-28 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] What is a U (other than a letter in the
  106. 2016-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] What is a U (other than a letter in the
  107. 2016-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] Fwd: Tell us about your recent Optimum experience.
  108. 2016-04-28 Ruben Safir <mrbrklyn-at-panix.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Tell us about your recent Optimum experience.
  109. 2016-04-27 James E Keenan <jkeen-at-verizon.net> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYC Perl 6 Beginners Study Group: Session 4: Sat
  110. 2016-04-28 Christopher League <christopher.league-at-liu.edu> Subject: [Hangout-NYLXS] how to build/run assn7/8 from cmdline
  111. 2016-04-28 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] NYC Perl 6 Beginners Study Group: Session 4:
  112. 2016-04-28 prmarino1-at-gmail.com Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] Communications Bill
  113. 2016-04-29 Rick Moen <rick-at-linuxmafia.com> Re: [Hangout-NYLXS] What is a U (other than a letter in the

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