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DATE | 2017-05-05 |
FROM | From: "Mancini, Sabin (DFS)"
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SUBJECT | Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: Re: [Panix #26803] ------> Forget FCC /
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SORBS, huh ? My issue was that I was ( is ) getting tons of spam emails, and unsubscribing was ignored in a number of cases; sometimes resulted in getting even more spam from other sources.
One of the Federal agencies is responsible for assisting citizens with this issue, I forget whether it as FTC or FCC, but you will find references to it on their website; BUT, just try and get help from them- they are totally useless and it will go nowhere.
I should look into SORBS and see if they would help with this. If I don't open my email for several days, when I do, I have literally HUNDREDS of junk email in both my Inbox and Spam folder.
I have to scan them manually by eye to make sure an important email I do want is not mixed in there, before deleting. This labor is frustrating. ____
Sabin -----Original Message----- From: Hangout [mailto:hangout-bounces-at-nylxs.com] On Behalf Of Ruben Safir Sent: Friday, May 05, 2017 8:13 AM To: Rick Moen Cc: hangout-at-nylxs.com Subject: Re: [Hangout of NYLXS] Fwd: Re: [Panix #26803] Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender
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On Thu, May 04, 2017 at 09:53:01PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Ruben Safir (ruben-at-mrbrklyn.com): > > > seems panix had trouble > > Understandable, because they're a shared host. The only way SMTP > spamicity reputation can be tracked is by the recorded behaviour of > sending IPs, from which it follows that all users of a shared host are > going to suffer SMTP reputation loss (for at least a while) from the > behaviour of any seriously misbehaving user. > > As to DNS BLs: They tend to come and go, work reasonably for a while > and at some point become cranky and/or dysfunctional, and nobody with a > modicum of common sense trusts any of them unconditionally or any single > one of them to be authoritative. > > And, by the way, I asked: > > > > Beyond that, what's the question? > > You asked for 'Opinions?' Opinions about what specifically? > > And, I would also say, why are you seeking opinions? Opinions are > rather debased coin at this point. Any damnfool has one, and almost all > of them do. Wouldn't a bit of understanding be quite a bit more useful? > > And thus: Is there something you wish to understand better? If so, > what? >
My question, I suppose, is if anyone else thinks SORBS is a scam
I've used it for a long time
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